Proposal: Eichel Mega Thread

[Tripod]

Well Zibanejad is 3 years older and doesn't have contract certainty. He also hasn't proven he can hang at that level for the length of his next contract, whereas I think Eichel has room to grow in terms of stats.

Zib+Laf+1st is too steep but I don't think it's really that far off to be honest.

Just look at it this way

Coleman was traded for a 1st + a prospect who was a 1st himself just 8 months earlier. So what is Zibby worth right now given that he has the same term left? Safe to say, Zibby's would be more.

So for Eichel, you are asking for like 3 1sts(for Zibby)+ 1st AND the #1 overall pick just months earlier. That's just not going to happen.

In the end, we likely never find out his value now as the Sabres should be keeping him and actually be trying to build around him. But if moved, it won't be for 4 1st AND a #1 overall pick.

 

[bsu]

If Buffalo trades Eichel that would be the most Buffalo thing ever.

 

[Critical13]

Just look at it this way

Coleman was traded for a 1st + a prospect who was a 1st himself just 8 months earlier. So what is Zibby worth right now given that he has the same term left? Safe to say, Zibby's would be more.

So for Eichel, you are asking for like 3 1sts(for Zibby)+ 1st AND the #1 overall pick just months earlier. That's just not going to happen.

In the end, we likely never find out his value now as the Sabres should be keeping him and actually be trying to build around him. But if moved, it won't be for 4 1st AND a #1 overall pick.

It's probably not going to happen, but that package you mention sounds about right for an Eichel player in my mind. I also think Coleman got more than he was really worth because Tampa knew they could afford to overspend for the right person.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Eichel won't be traded untill he demands it. As far as I know, he hasn't demanded it yet.

 

[AirGut]

It's probably not going to happen, but that package you mention sounds about right for an Eichel player in my mind. I also think Coleman got more than he was really worth because Tampa knew they could afford to overspend for the right person.

The thing is I don't believe that's what the Sabres would want to be honest. We truly don't know Eichel's true value on the market as of right now but I think people are quick to forget trades to compare it to in years past. A trade like an Eichel deal hasn't really happened since Seguin, or more specifically Rick Nash, who I think is a pretty close representation of what a young premier player will get still.

 

[Tripod]

It's probably not going to happen, but that package you mention sounds about right for an Eichel player in my mind. I also think Coleman got more than he was really worth because Tampa knew they could afford to overspend for the right person.

We will agree to disagree. I don't think you are going to get a proven 70+ point guy and a top prospect expected to be a 70-90 point guy and another 1st on top of it.

Hope you guys keep him, honestly.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

The thing is I don't believe that's what the Sabres would want to be honest. We truly don't know Eichel's true value on the market as of right now but I think people are quick to forget trades to compare it to in years past. A trade like an Eichel deal hasn't really happened since Seguin, or more specifically Rick Nash, who I think is a pretty close representation of what a young premier player will get still.

They're almost always underwhelming when a premier player leaves. IF Eichel were to go, it won't exactly be a Lindros to Philly kinda trade.

 

[Critical13]

The thing is I don't believe that's what the Sabres would want to be honest. We truly don't know Eichel's true value on the market as of right now but I think people are quick to forget trades to compare it to in years past. A trade like an Eichel deal hasn't really happened since Seguin, or more specifically Rick Nash, who I think is a pretty close representation of what a young premier player will get still.

I put Eichel's value on an entirely different tier than either of those players, personally.

Using the Seguin trade is not a good idea either as it's probably one of the worst trades in the last decade.

 

[AirGut]

I put Eichel's value on an entirely different tier than either of those players, personally.

Using the Seguin trade is not a good idea either as it's probably one of the worst trades in the last decade.

This is true, it's just hard to gauge his actual market value since these types of deals don't happen that often. Maybe Jeff Carter? Eric Lindros if you wanna go back that far. The actual deal won't be as hyped up as most people make it in their head. It'll be "disappointing" to the casual fans on paper but over time I think it'll really benefit BUF.

 

[Critical13]

This is true, it's just hard to gauge his actual market value since these types of deals don't happen that often. Maybe Jeff Carter? Eric Lindros if you wanna go back that far. The actual deal won't be as hyped up as most people make it in their head. It'll be "disappointing" to the casual fans on paper but over time I think it'll really benefit BUF.

I personally don't think we've seen a player of Eichels value and control-ability traded since Lindros, and I agree that we really have no basis for our opinions. I personally don't value Zibs as much as I probably should, and I think losing that 1st could be painful but not THAT painful in the big picture. The real wildcard is Laf....I still see him becoming a 90pt power forward, and if he hits that...well, he would be nearly worth Eichel alone. That would be the gamble both parties would need to take on this deal.

 

[SRHRangers]

Laughing at the thought of Zibs and LaF in a deal.

It would be one or the other if a deal was made.

And personally, neither. And just walk away from Eichel.

 

[Reaper45]

As a Kings fan most I’d do is Byfield, Iafallo and a 1st.

 

[Zach716]

Why do rangers fans think buffalo would be looking for a UFA center? Zib wouldn’t be in any Eichel trade unless an extension was agreed upon.

It would be Laf+++

 

[Some Other Flame]

Tkachuk + Valimaki + Monahan + 1st for Eichel + Reinhart

 

[bigdog16]

Eichel last minute scratch tonight

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Eichel last minute scratch tonight

Took warmups too.

 

[Pavelski2112]

Eichel last minute scratch tonight

 

[MMC]

 

[Team Cozens]

Eichel last minute scratch tonight

He's been injured for a while.

 

[The Red Helmet]

I guess the question is, what are Eichel and Skinner's value as a pair in a trade?

 

[Mackiaveli]

You don't have a single asset in your entire organization that would even be close to the type of centerpiece required for Adams to even bother answering the phone call.

Trade would never happen - but if you think Suzuki + Petry + 1st/Caufield wouldn't peak some interest you're crazy.

 

[Djp]

Took warmups too.

he got hurt late against NZj when Hischeir grabbed his ankle.

it was likely a game time decision.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Trade would never happen - but if you think Suzuki + Petry + 1st/Caufield wouldn't peak some interest you're crazy.

That's pretty average for a young star like Eichel.

Petry does nothing for them because of age since they won't be competing anytime soon if Eichel goes.

So it becomes Suzuki + 1st/Caufield for Eichel. That's not enough at all.

 

[CatchyTune]

I guess the question is, what are Eichel and Skinner's value as a pair in a trade?

lowering your franchise players' value by attaching Skinner to him would be beyond dumb

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I guess the question is, what are Eichel and Skinner's value as a pair in a trade?

Even Eichel isn’t enough to get someone to take that contract