He is. A rough start to a year when he had no training camp and an unplanned 2-week interruption doesn't change that. Doesn't make Barkov a bad player - I'm not sure why this even brings that to mind.
Eichel/Hall/Skinner =$27M For Combined 3 Goals
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...better than Barkov AND Matthews apparently.
Because Barkov had a training camp and a steady schedule to start the season? Your argument makes no sense.
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I'm by no means blaming Hall. To me, I think it's just bad luck. But who really knows?
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Oh so now it’s Hynes and goaltending, originally it was just about Hall.
That’s not true, there’s interviews where he says he likes it in Jersey and that the devils fans chanting mvp was his career high point. The only criticism he ever had was when the fans were booing the team. It’s not that I specifically like Hall more than other former devils players, he just seems like an easy target for everyone to gang up on like highschool bullies or something. I’d also like people to respect the players more, especially former players (unless they give a reason for it..). Fans seem to have that f*** everyone who doesn’t wear our jersey mentallity. Reminds me of that old Seinfeld bit how we really just cheer for the clothes.
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6 less games played is part of that...at their current P%, that puts them tied with VAN/CGY at 17, in 2 less games than VAN.
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As bad as they have been (again) I don’t think you throw in the towel until Eichel asks to get out. Even when tanking it would be difficult to add another player like him because of the three team lottery. Lucky for them they have a lot of players on expiring deals and a shocking amount of cap space this offseason (35M). That gives them a lot of room to find
1 starting goalie (Anderson, Rask, Binnington)
3 defenceman (Murray, Savard, Oleksiak, Vatanen)
1 two way centre (Danault, RNH)
And some forward depth to push guys like Eakin, Okposo, Thompson down the depth chart
1 starting goalie (Anderson, Rask, Binnington)
3 defenceman (Murray, Savard, Oleksiak, Vatanen)
1 two way centre (Danault, RNH)
And some forward depth to push guys like Eakin, Okposo, Thompson down the depth chart
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Residual Karma for Murray’s shameful tank in 2015...or 2016, as well as hoping for a Tavares injury so they could get better draft position from the 1st rounder they got from the Vanek/Moulson trade.
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It's not 27 million for three goals unless that's their season total. What's 27 million prorated to one month?
Like many I thought they would progress a lot this season. The long period with no games for them maybe a bigger issue than other teams? Goaltending? Really is a surprise they aren't doing better. One has to wonder if things would be back to normal and they were in the normal division if they would be better off.
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Buffalo has played 12 games out of 56 = 21.428% of the season.
21.428% of $27 million = $5.785 million
Jerzey Devil
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Did you read the first post I responded to you? I said without Hall and Hynes the Devils are a better team.
And personally I don’t care what he says during interviews. He’s just being political. His actions speak louder than his words. He was angry when he first got traded to NJ. He patiently waited until the year his contract was going to expire and then he let his frustrations show. How many players call out the fans of a team they like playing for?
He also signed with a team that finished one spot ahead of us in the standings.
And yes I believe the Jersey they wear is more important than the player. I guess that’s what happens when you grow up watching hockey during the Lou Lamorilo years. That was his whole philosophy.
That doesn’t mean I don’t like players after they leave though. Still root for guys like Rico and Larson. Definitely Marty in St. Louis even though I’d rather forget about that altogether. I just don’t like players who obviously didn’t like their time here. And to me that’s exactly what Hall proved.
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So by using your logic of "all Sabres fans are idiots because some Sabres fans thought the team would be amazing", does this mean that "all Leafs fans are dicks because Lahey is"?
Dude you quite clearly understood the point. For $27M in cap they scored 3 goals in a combined 35 games. Jason Spezza has matched that in ONE game for $700K.
I mean ill take the ~70 games last season where Eichel was better over the like 13 games Barkov has been better this season.
Why is that? Because your players are being properly critized?
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Props to Curtis Lazar for reviving his career in Buffalo though.
Always a super likeable guy.
Buffalo can't escape badness for some reason.
With Eichel and Dahlin, you feel they should have cornerstones. Now, having a Dman at 20 might be part of the issue, he's still years away from his prime. People forget Vic Hedman was a 20-30 point defender for the first 5 years of his career too. Dunno. Maybe some cosmic justice for the blatant tanking years back?
At least the bills are good <shrug>
Always a super likeable guy.
Buffalo can't escape badness for some reason.
With Eichel and Dahlin, you feel they should have cornerstones. Now, having a Dman at 20 might be part of the issue, he's still years away from his prime. People forget Vic Hedman was a 20-30 point defender for the first 5 years of his career too. Dunno. Maybe some cosmic justice for the blatant tanking years back?
At least the bills are good <shrug>
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1) Eichel does look off and I don’t get it.
2) Starting to worry- why do all of Hall’s teams lose? Does he require a shit system of something?
3) I’m still gonna watch with hope- until Eich says he’s done we continue on. If it ends up a lost season we can deal Hall and Staal at the deadline, hopefully the parts coming back would be enough to not suck next year. Or something.
2) Starting to worry- why do all of Hall’s teams lose? Does he require a shit system of something?
3) I’m still gonna watch with hope- until Eich says he’s done we continue on. If it ends up a lost season we can deal Hall and Staal at the deadline, hopefully the parts coming back would be enough to not suck next year. Or something.
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Although I agree with what you said 100% Hedman was never considered "Generational" this is what does Dahlin in a bit. His standard was supposed to be Denis Potvin at least and was touted as the best D prospect of our generation.
1st year I can understand but with his hype, and 3rd year of playing he should be winning the Norris.
Again, I am only saying this in comparison to what his draft hype was coming in.
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