Rumor: Edmonton / Toronto discussed “huge” Larsson deal

[WilliamNylander]

Brown + Zaitsev + 2nd is my guess. Maybe EDM wanted a 2nd but the Leafs didn't want to add the pick.

 

[Old Boys Club]

Oilers should be trading for a top 4 RHD, not trading one away. Even though Larsson isn't a top pair guy he's still a good defenseman and trading him away would be foolish.

 

[780il]

Larsson is literally the perfect fit for Toronto. He's the exact guy they need for Rielly.

But a deal with Brown as the center piece? Helll nah. Only way we'd move our only good RD is if we got a stupid package back. Like Liljegren + Kapanen + Brown + Hainsey for Larsson and a smallish +.

 

[780il]

Brown + 2nd for Larsson

Awful

Brown + Zaitsev + 2nd is my guess. Maybe EDM wanted a 2nd but the Leafs didn't want to add the pick.

Aaaand even worse...

 

[WilliamNylander]

Awful


Aaaand even worse...

Lets assume the center piece of the deal is Brown. What else added makes it fair value while making sense cap wise?

Zaitsev has to be in there, and then a pick to balance out the value I guess.

 

[Jozay]

If the deal was very complex/had a lot moving parts, maybe the Leafs wanted to move Gardiner for another player, and then send that player to edmonton on top of whatever they were already sending. Idk, im just guessing it was something like that.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Larsson is literally the perfect fit for Toronto. He's the exact guy they need for Rielly.

But a deal with Brown as the center piece? Helll nah. Only way we'd move our only good RD is if we got a stupid package back. Like Liljegren + Kapanen + Brown + Zaitsev for Larsson and a small +.

If they decide they want Larsson then brace yourself. You’re going to be seeing a lot of great offers like that. Blues and canes fans can attest to this.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Brown + Zaitsev + 2nd is my guess. Maybe EDM wanted a 2nd but the Leafs didn't want to add the pick.

Edmonton won’t be adding cap here, I can tell you that much. Particularly not 5 years at 4.5.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Brown + Zaitsev + 2nd is my guess. Maybe EDM wanted a 2nd but the Leafs didn't want to add the pick.

To see Jordan Eberle turned into basically nothing via a series of trades, would you really subject Oilers fans to the realization that management turned Taylor Hall into......that?

 

[Old Boys Club]

It concerns me that Larsson's name was even out there. I think adding one more top 4 guy to Klef, Larsson and Nurse could form a solid, young d-core. Probably not top 10, but serviceable enough.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

If they decide they want Larsson then brace yourself. You’re going to be seeing a lot of great offers like that. Blues and canes fans can attest to this.

A veteran of the Second Zaitsev Wars, I see. Welcome, sir.

 

[780il]

Lets assume the center piece of the deal is Brown. What else added makes it fair value while making sense cap wise?

Zaitsev has to be in there, and then a pick to balance out the value I guess.

If you want Zaitsev in there it's gonna take a lot.

Liljegren + Kapanen + Brown + Zaitsev for Larsson + Kassian

 

[Cor]

Larsson is literally the perfect fit for Toronto. He's the exact guy they need for Rielly.

But a deal with Brown as the center piece? Helll nah. Only way we'd move our only good RD is if we got a stupid package back. Like Liljegren + Kapanen + Brown + Hainsey for Larsson and a smallish +.

lmao

 

[Seachd]

Lets assume the center piece of the deal is Brown. What else added makes it fair value while making sense cap wise?

Zaitsev has to be in there, and then a pick to balance out the value I guess.

Zaitsev can’t be in there. That’s the problem.

 

[WilliamNylander]

It concerns me that Larsson's name was even out there. I think adding one more top 4 guy to Klef, Larsson and Nurse could form a solid, young d-core. Probably not top 10, but serviceable enough.

Depending on who it is, that could easily be a top 10 D core. Klef is legit when healthy.

 

[razkaz]

"too many moving parts" sounds like a 3rd team was involved. Maybe they were trying to dump Hainsey/Gardiner for a pick that would be added to Brown?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Brown + 2nd for Larsson

Not even relatively close.

 

[780il]

Depending on who it is, that could easily be a top 10 D core. Klef is legit when healthy.

And thats the tough part. Guy is seriously good, but he's injured so often.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

If the story is to be believed (and I'm not sure it is) they were probably talking about Toronto taking on Lucic's contract to some extent. That's the only reason any such deal would have been too "complex" to pull off. Or it could have been one of those deals where Toronto acquires Lucic, and then trades him to a third party while retaining a portion of the contract.

Again though doubt that it happened.

 

[780il]

If they decide they want Larsson then brace yourself. You’re going to be seeing a lot of great offers like that. Blues and canes fans can attest to this.

I've seen those Pesce/Parayko offers lmao. My condolences to your fanbase haha.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Zaitsev can’t be in there. That’s the problem.

Correct. Zaitsev does not add value to the deal for Edmonton, he detracts from it. Toronto is adding a good bit more if they want to dump Zaitsev.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

Maybe it was Zaitsev and Brown for Larsson, but the Leafs did not want to do it until the draft and lose a net roster player before the playoffs.

Why on Earth would the Oilers do that?

It helps our noble cause.

 

[GeeoffBrown]

I'd hope the Oilers would have a permanent GM in place before making a Larsson trade. That's one trade they'd be under a lot of pressure to win.

 

[izlez]

So, we are given the facts:

-"Huge" deal
-Complex deal
-Many moving pieces
-Brown is ONE of the pieces
-the trade did not happen

Logical conclusion: It was probably Brown plus a 7th defenseman. This is verifiable proof that Brown has the value to land a top 4 defenseman on his own

 

[joestevens29]

The crappy thing for other teams is while you may have negotiated something the past few days with the Oilers there really isn't much guarantee it will be there come the off-season.

Not sure why Gretzky himself said they laid a lot of groundwork.