Rumor: Edmonton / Toronto discussed “huge” Larsson deal

[ChaoticOrange]

With Brown one of the pieces heading back to Edmonton.

Jimmy Murphy tweeted it out and Lowetide in Edmonton talking about it on the radio as well. Deal fell through because it was huge, complex, with many moving pieces.

As an Oiler fan, Toronto would need to have a lot more on the table than just Brown to make it in any way worthwhile for us to blow up our right side.

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[Joel Ward]

I think Larsson would be a great add for the Leafs, but I can't imagine what that deal would've looked like.

 

[Cor]

FWIW, Chris Johnston said on the radio yesterday morning that while the Leafs were telling people publicly they were going to be quiet, multiple other sources were saying they were talking about a big deal, and hopefully get the top 4 RD.

So while Murphy is awful, it's not out of the question.

I'm just wondering why it was so huge and complex. Larsson is a second pairing guy. Brown is a third liner. Seems like something where TOR would add in a draft pick or prospect, or both and get it done.

 

[Schenn]

The other major parts were something around Matthews and McDavid. True story.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Maybe it was Zaitsev and Brown for Larsson, but the Leafs did not want to do it until the draft and lose a net roster player before the playoffs.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Maybe it was Zaitsev and Brown for Larsson, but the Leafs did not want to do it until the draft and lose a net roster player before the playoffs.

Why on Earth would the Oilers do that?

 

[justafan22]

Larsson makes ~4.16 million until 2021.

It would've have to be Zaitsev in the deal.

But then why would the oilers do that unless they're getting something worthwhile back.

Was liljegren in this deal?

Seems weird

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Why on Earth would the Oilers do that?

To get an immediate top 4 RD replacement on top of Brown.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

FWIW, Chris Johnston said on the radio yesterday morning that while the Leafs were telling people publicly they were going to be quiet, multiple other sources were saying they were talking about a big deal, and hopefully get the top 4 RD.

So while Murphy is awful, it's not out of the question.

I'm just wondering why it was so huge and complex. Larsson is a second pairing guy. Brown is a third liner. Seems like something where TOR would add in a draft pick or prospect, or both and get it done.

A 2nd pairing RHD is worth significantly more than a third line winger. It would have been a lot bigger because of the hole blown in the Oilers defence. It would need to be made much more worth Edmonton’s while.

And no, we don’t want Zaitsev. If you want to send Zaitsev over you’re taking Lucic back.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

Makes perfect sense when you think about it. Oilers always trade for a diminishing return.

Hall -> Larsson -> Brown

 

[ChaoticOrange]

To get an immediate top 4 RD replacement on top of Brown.

Zaitsev has negative value for us. He’s a right handed Russell signed forever for far too much.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

A 2nd pairing RHD is worth significantly more than a third line winger. It would have been a lot bigger because of the hole blown in the Oilers defence. It would need to be made much more worth Edmonton’s while.

And no, we don’t want Zaitsev. If you want to send Zaitsev over you’re taking Lucic back.

What else would you give on Lucic, and how much are you retaining?

 

[TFHockey]

Be reasonable, you're asking about the Oilers best RHD and you're offering Zaitsev?

 

[Cor]

A 2nd pairing RHD is worth significantly more than a third line winger. It would have been a lot bigger because of the hole blown in the Oilers defence. It would need to be made much more worth Edmonton’s while.

And no, we don’t want Zaitsev. If you want to send Zaitsev over you’re taking Lucic back.

It was reported Ryan Rishaug (sp?) that EDM wanted to trade Matt Benning for Connor Brown.

Maybe Dubas countered with Brown for Larsson sarcastically?

 

[Brock Radunske]

Probably Brown+Zaitsev+Lily for Larsson.

 

[Canovin]

It's probably Larsson+Manning+Lucic+cap dump+cap dump for Brown

 

[ChaoticOrange]

What else would you give on Lucic, and how much are you retaining?

Nothing if you’re set on sending Zaitsev over. If you’re not, then that can be discussed.

 

[TFHockey]

Probably Brown+Zaitsev+Lily for Larsson.

That isn't "probable" from an Edmonton perspective.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

A 2nd pairing RHD is worth significantly more than a third line winger. It would have been a lot bigger because of the hole blown in the Oilers defence. It would need to be made much more worth Edmonton’s while.

And no, we don’t want Zaitsev. If you want to send Zaitsev over you’re taking Lucic back.

Would Zaitsev + Brown for Larsson have even worked with your cap? Doesnt seem like it

I could maybe see Brown + Hainsey + high pick/prospect but the third piece would need to be very tantalizing

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Maybe it was Zaitsev and Brown for Larsson, but the Leafs did not want to do it until the draft and lose a net roster player before the playoffs.

That makes no sense whatsoever for Edmonton. They give up the best player in the deal and relieve Toronto of a cap dump all so they can land Brown?

 

[Brock Radunske]

That isn't "probable" from an Edmonton perspective.

Fair. Maybe that's why it didn't go through.
I don't see what else the Leafs would be willing to part with for Larsson though. Maybe one of Kapanen or Johnsson but once you add Brown, it feels like an overpay from TO.

 

[justafan22]

Would Zaitsev + Brown for Larsson have even worked with your cap? Doesnt seem like it

I could maybe see Brown + Hainsey + high pick/prospect but the third piece would need to be very tantalizing

That's interesting. Liljegren + hainsey + brown for Larsson and Benning?

Zaitsev is a non starter here, and Brown by himself doesn't work cap wise.

 

[Dbrownss]

Jesus, Edmonton better get something good....and not Zeitsev+Brown.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Maybe it was Zaitsev and Brown for Larsson, but the Leafs did not want to do it until the draft and lose a net roster player before the playoffs.

The leafs fans never fail to amaze their roster talent evaluation

 

[A1LeafNation]

Brown + 2nd for Larsson