Confirmed with Link: [EDM/PHX] Tobias Rieder for Kale Kessy

[Lewy]

I don't know enough about Kessy to make a real valid argument here... but this is a terrifying trade as of right now.

Bump.
Kessy - 2 pts in 18 games. Demoted to ECHL
Rieder - 8 pts in 10 games.

Bad times.

 

[Alberta]

Bump.
Kessy - 2 pts in 18 games. Demoted to ECHL
Rieder - 8 pts in 10 games.

Bad times.

To be fair, nobody could have foreseen his demotion to the ECHL.

 

[ohheyhemsky]

Said it then, and I'll say it now. The trade was garbage.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Way too early to call this trade. If Rieder only ends up as an AHL star and Kessy becomes a solid 4th line NHLer IMO we win this trade.

 

[Cizin]

Said it then, and I'll say it now. The trade was garbage.

Rieder wasn't going to sign with the Oilers and go back into the draft so the trade was made to salvage something from the pick. Doing nothing would have been better?

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Rieder wasn't going to sign with the Oilers and go back into the draft so the trade was made to salvage something from the pick. Doing nothing would have been better?

The sooner people realize this the sooner they should be far less critical of the trade. With all due respect to Rieder unless he's very strong for his size he's more of what we have an abundance of for the most part.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Bump.
Kessy - 2 pts in 18 games. Demoted to ECHL
Rieder - 8 pts in 10 games.

Bad times.

1) Kessy is a power forward. Reider is not. Power forwards typically take longer to develop.

2) It doesn't matter how many points Rieder has, he is a one dimensional, small scoring forward. We don't need any more players like that.

 

[Lewy]

1) Kessy is a power forward. Reider is not. Power forwards typically take longer to develop.

2) It doesn't matter how many points Rieder has, he is a one dimensional, small scoring forward. We don't need any more players like that.

I had never heard Rieder wasn't going to sign with the Oil until right now, still not sure it's true (no real evidence).
Didn't watch Rieder play much?

 

[ohheyhemsky]

Rieder wasn't going to sign with the Oilers and go back into the draft so the trade was made to salvage something from the pick. Doing nothing would have been better?

Is there proof of this, or is this speculation?

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Is there proof of this, or is this speculation?

I have heard several respected posters say this including Fourier I believe who I know for a fact watches a ton of Kitchener Rangers hockey. You could say the same thing in recent years for guys like Omark and more recently Rajala who took their skates and went home.

 

[ohheyhemsky]

I have heard several respected posters say this including Fourier I believe who I know for a fact watches a ton of Kitchener Rangers hockey. You could say the same thing in recent years for guys like Omark and more recently Rajala who took their skates and went home.

..so it's speculation.

As the trade stands now, we lose. We'll have to wait and see what happens. If Kessy grows a brain, then hey, you never know. We might have a 3rd line AHLer in the making!

 

[Lewy]

Well either way. It stinks.

 

[Cizin]

Is there proof of this, or is this speculation?

Purely speculative on my part, I don't have access to privileged information. I recall reading that the Oilers wanted to sign him but negotiations weren't going well. There was a media quote, apparently from his agent or someone connected with his junior team, saying Tobias thought his chances of making the NHL roster within a reasonable period of time were low.

It seems reasonable that that's what went down, given that the period to sign him was closing and the Oilers ended up trading him.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

..so it's speculation.

As the trade stands now, we lose. We'll have to wait and see what happens. If Kessy grows a brain, then hey, you never know. We might have a 3rd line AHLer in the making!

My bad, I didn't realize that Rieder was a NHL player already. We should bring back Rajala, trade for Rieder back, call up Omark and just rename the team the Edmonton Smurfs.

 

[Groucho]

Bump.
Kessy - 2 pts in 18 games. Demoted to ECHL
Rieder - 8 pts in 10 games.

Bad times.

Let's put some perspective on this.
OKC Barons have already had more than twice the amount of transactions they had last year (>60) and its only December.
Kessy is a victim of a #'s game because of all the forwards down there. Up until he was sent down he was PKing regularly and playing a bottom 6 role with Ewanyk. He's not exactly getting PP time or top 6 scoring minutes.

 

[ohheyhemsky]

My bad, I didn't realize that Rieder was a NHL player already. We should bring back Rajala, trade for Rieder back, call up Omark and just rename the team the Edmonton Smurfs.

Or, keep trading assets for coke machines. Might as well start drafting them as well. Hm.. This all seem familiar for some reason..

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Or, keep trading assets for coke machines. Might as well start drafting them as well. Hm.. This all seem familiar for some reason..

We need more Kessy's, Moroz', Ewanyk's, Khaira's, Betker's, Chase's etc. than we need more Gagner's and Hemsky's. We need size that can play and win board battles to give the skill some space on the ice to make plays. If they can fight on top of that then that's an added bonus.

 

[Oilfan2]

We need more Kessy's, Moroz', Ewanyk's, Khaira's, Betker's, Chase's etc. than we need more Gagner's and Hemsky's. We need size that can play and win board battles to give the skill some space on the ice to make plays. If they can fight on top of that then that's an added bonus.

Exactly..We've got plenty of skill but need the players that can, and will, go to the hard areas in the corner and in front of the net to win the puck and punish some opposition players while the skill guys make the sweet plays.

 

[Lewy]

We need more Kessy's, Moroz', Ewanyk's, Khaira's, Betker's, Chase's etc. than we need more Gagner's and Hemsky's. We need size that can play and win board battles to give the skill some space on the ice to make plays. If they can fight on top of that then that's an added bonus.

6 names there. How many play over 200 nhl games? 1 maybe 2 if you hit the jackpot? I think the fact is that a lot of the players on the Oilers right now are unwilling to do what is necessary to win games consistently.
Gallagher is wee, but he ain't scared.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I had never heard Rieder wasn't going to sign with the Oil until right now, still not sure it's true (no real evidence).
Didn't watch Rieder play much?

I watched him a few times. He wouldn't fit on our big club, his skill set is exactly what we already have. No need for more prospects like that, we need to focus on building character prospects, bangers, crashers, and hopefully one or two of them ends up with significant scoring touch as well.

 

[ManofSteel55]

6 names there. How many play over 200 nhl games? 1 maybe 2 if you hit the jackpot? I think the fact is that a lot of the players on the Oilers right now are unwilling to do what is necessary to win games consistently.
Gallagher is wee, but he ain't scared.

That's exactly why we need more of those guys. A small percentage of prospects makes the step up to the NHL, and we need some power forwards badly, so having a few extras in the system is good...one or two might turn into exactly what we need.

 

[dynastydays]

 

[dynastydays]

We need more Kessy's, Moroz', Ewanyk's, Khaira's, Betker's, Chase's etc. than we need more Gagner's and Hemsky's. We need size that can play and win board battles to give the skill some space on the ice to make plays. If they can fight on top of that then that's an added bonus.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Oh look it's this topic again! Haven't seen it in awhile.

Is Tobias Reider an NHL superstar yet?

 

[Oilfan2]

Thanks for your contributions.