CHRDANHUTCH
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the only expansion team is T-R.... and no league meetings will be held until at least 2022..... expansion or other league businessguess we will find out next month and state not province
the only expansion team is T-R.... and no league meetings will be held until at least 2022..... expansion or other league businessguess we will find out next month and state not province
guess we will find out next month and state not province
the only expansion team is T-R.... and no league meetings will be held until at least 2022..... expansion or other league business
i mean manchester and san Antonio would make sense for him both close to possible nhl and ahl affiliates he already convinced two nhl franchises with his teams so i can see it again. Who knows though. Maybe this is the unnamed manchester owner. @royals119 could be right thoughBased on what he has done so far, he has put it in markets that are 1). near a NHL team that 2). wants to improve prospect development by adding a close affiliate a AA team within easy access.
St. John's is an cheap, easy 3-4 hour direct flight to their AHL/NHL affiliates in Toronto, Trois-Rivières is less than 2 hours driving away from their AHL/NHL affiliates in Montréal and Laval. Dean MacDonald has regularly praised this method of operation and is unlikely to change.
If you want to look at possible solutions, look for NHL teams that fit this mold. Boston certainly doesn't. They care more about getting their concessions revenue from Providence than developing their prospects. And unless they've suddenly changed after many long years of apathy, that counts out Manchester. Savannah is a five hour drive away from their closest NHL affiliate. That closest affiliate, Carolina, is already affiliated with the Greenville Swamp Rabbits less than two hours away. And unless the Hurricanes want to cancel that relationship they've spent a year praising and reportedly reaping rewards from, that counts out Savannah. I saw you mention San Antonio, Dallas is the only reasonable affiliate and they've been affiliated with the Steelheads for 15 years.
The only realistic situations to my knowledge is him getting a ECHL tenant for University of Iowa's new arena in Coralville and affiliating with the Minnesota Wild or the new arena to be building in Clarksville, TN and affiliating with Nashville. They have both been properly publicized, yet not linked to anyone let alone Dean MacDonald, and it fits his mold of operating, which he has been very clear about not changing.
You also have to take into consideration that in the past 5 years alone, there have been many different groups of people saying they will be bringing in a ECHL team to a market. Off the top of my head, people at different times have said they will be bringing a team to Reno, Richmond, among others. None of them happened. Speculating is one thing, but believing it will actually happen is another,
T-R took care of Manchester and any other market is a non-starter, especially in a pandemic..... this isn't a speculation thread.... then there's why or if SJSE has indeed and/or finally relinquished control of the arena in St. John'si mean manchester and san Antonio would make sense for him both close to possible nhl and ahl affiliates he already convinced two nhl franchises with his teams so i can see it again. Who knows though. Maybe this is the unnamed manchester owner. @royals119 could be right though
T-R took care of Manchester and any other market is a non-starter, especially in a pandemic..... this isn't a speculation thread.... then there's why or if SJSE has indeed and/or finally relinquished control of the arena in St. John's
then where is the 3 other ownerships outside of Trois Rivieres, then.....Darryl, since you are the so-called know-it-all about everything there is to know.... maybe you should buy the Railers and move then to Manchester or SavannahSeriously? All this is is a speculation thread.
as I've said before sometimes i really dont get hutchthen where is the 3 other ownerships outside of Trois Rivieres, then.....Darryl, since you are the so-called know-it-all about everything there is to know.... maybe you should buy the Railers and move then to Manchester or Savannah
you're the one speculating, dude..... the league is still at 27, even without a pandemic, and whether or not T-r ACTUALLY Happens, remember the thread title, the league needs to go to 32, now, not 30, and that's predicated on getting those teams interested or supportive of affiliating, either by expansion, or existing markets.... now that Seattle is on its way, and they cannot even get their AHL Affiliate up and running due to the pandemic, which is why no league outside of the NHL at present is playing since the pandemic began in March.....as I've said before sometimes i really dont get hutch
and since March, outside of T-R, WHICH HAD ITS OWN thread, how many teams have been announced in the midst of a pandemic..... when the 2019-20 season ended in March, there is no news about expansion, Manchester, or not, and the pivot toward 12/4/21, EVEN if that occursid say at least 80% of this thread has been speculation nothing new
Richmond went the same way but that a different thread.... there's no arena in Richmond, hasn't been since the Renegades and Riverdogs collapsed...... and Navy Hill was rejected by the Commonwealth..... it's the same reasoning why Norfolk hasn't replaced Scope, and there's little option to even a temporary facility if it happensto be fair I thought manchester has gonna be official by now due to all the chatter about there being a owner i mean even mark divver was talking about it but since that didn't pan out i am looking (speculating) what other expansion options might work ex. savannah , san Antonio, Richmond with fred festa , etc. Dean Macdonald might be potentially looking at one of these options
id say at least 80% of this thread has been speculation nothing new
I've watched Richmond FOR YEARS, where's the arena now that the Coliseum is not viable and has been closed since 2017, and who posted that..... not YOUThe entire topic is about speculation. There are some folks, or maybe it's just one specific person, that can't separate facts from speculation and then interject completely unrelated information that has no connection to anything, and that's what causes issues.
I've watched Richmond FOR YEARS, where's the arena now that the Coliseum is not viable and has been closed since 2017, and who posted that..... not YOU
Richmond Coliseum closed permanently in February of 2019.....there is no arena in Henrico County, even being proposed or under discussion.... that's why the FPHL abandoned all attempts to go there, and settled on Fraser, MI
i mean manchester and san Antonio would make sense for him both close to possible nhl and ahl affiliates he already convinced two nhl franchises with his teams so i can see it again. Who knows though. Maybe this is the unnamed manchester owner. @royals119 could be right though
to be fair I thought manchester has gonna be official by now due to all the chatter about there being a owner i mean even mark divver was talking about it but since that didn't pan out i am looking (speculating) what other expansion options might work ex. savannah , san Antonio, Richmond with fred festa , etc. Dean Macdonald might be potentially looking at one of these options
A ECHL team in San Antonio needs to have the perfect revenue scenario for the spurs to give up arena date's. Most likely something like the spurs getting a cut of Gameday revenue but having no ownership of the team.i mean manchester and san Antonio would make sense for him both close to possible nhl and ahl affiliates he already convinced two nhl franchises with his teams so i can see it again. Who knows though. Maybe this is the unnamed manchester owner. @royals119 could be right though
Take out Richmond. Not happening without a new arena, which was voted down harshly and isn’t going to be revisited. Fred Festa hasn’t opened his yapper since then and won’t be opening it back up any time soon.
A ECHL team in San Antonio needs to have the perfect revenue scenario for the spurs to give up arena date's. Most likely something like the spurs getting a cut of Gameday revenue but having no ownership of the team.
Overall: I don't think there will be much expansion in the ECHL for quite a few years after this pandemic, as it has wiped out a lot of investment, and dramatically altered budgets. The ECHL will be lucky to see the majority of it's teams even come out of this alive.
Hasn't one for them and Wheeling been going on already?we should start a wager on when brampton will fold