Post-Game Talk: Eastern Conference Title Defense Day 1: Devils @ Rangers

[Megustaelhockey]

First preseason game. Everyone relax, please.

This will help:

 

[TheDirtyH]

Though I agree with the common feelings about goonery not being something to worry about, just to play Devils advocate, couldn't we see Prust's cheap shot to Step's jaw as a retaliation of sorts. Kreids might not get beat up, but he may inspire some reckless "pay-back"

 

[Machinehead]

The only thing I worry about after last night is injuries to our defense. Those depth guys left a lot to be desired.

 

[Krams]

The only thing I worry about after last night is injuries to our defense. Those depth guys left a lot to be desired.

Hopefully McIlrath is ready to go soon.

 

[Wolfy*]

You should have some respect for the heavyweight fighters, they will have a non-fighter like Kreider for lunch.

And a goon doesn't care about penalties if he has a mission, it's actually his job. Goon retaliation doesn't happen so much anymore, but it isn't gone either.

 

[aufheben]

You should have some respect for the heavyweight fighters, they will have a non-fighter like Kreider for lunch.

And a goon doesn't care about penalties if he has a mission, it's actually his job. Goon retaliation doesn't happen so much anymore, but it isn't gone either.

Why would Kreider fight a heavyweight, or anyone for that matter?

Kreider can literally skate twice as fast as someone like John Scott lirl

 

[Fugazy]

You should have some respect for the heavyweight fighters, they will have a non-fighter like Kreider for lunch.

And a goon doesn't care about penalties if he has a mission, it's actually his job. Goon retaliation doesn't happen so much anymore, but it isn't gone either.

But Kreider would never fight a "heavyweight fighter." That's not what he does and not what he will do as a player.

 

[Krams]

You should have some respect for the heavyweight fighters, they will have a non-fighter like Kreider for lunch.

And a goon doesn't care about penalties if he has a mission, it's actually his job. Goon retaliation doesn't happen so much anymore, but it isn't gone either.

Have respect for cavemen on ice who can't even skate? I don't think they're owed any respect whatsoever. Heavyweights will not do anything to Kreider. Dude fought Chara, and in the event of a mugging, can easily hold on until the refs break it up.

 

[Wolfy*]

Why would Kreider fight a heavyweight, or anyone for that matter?

My point is he may not have a choice if he keeps running goalies.

 

[aufheben]

My point is he may not have a choice if he keeps running goalies.

That's not a point, it's baloney.

 

[NYR Viper]

I guess I fear the retaliation that may come if someone deems it necessary not on Kreider himself, although a dirty hit could happen, but on other players.

 

[Callafan24]

Have respect for cavemen on ice who can't even skate? I don't think they're owed any respect whatsoever. Heavyweights will not do anything to Kreider. Dude fought Chara, and in the event of a mugging, can easily hold on until the refs break it up.

It was Phaneuf.

 

[Krams]

It was Phaneuf.

Same thing. Thanks for correcting me.

 

[Gardner McKay]

My point is he may not have a choice if he keeps running goalies.

This isn't the 70's, 80's, or 90's any more. That isn't going to happen. You won't have a heavyweight pull Kreider aside and randomly beat the snot out of him. That would be met with a hefty suspension, fine and possibly even, a suspension for the coach. I would wager that Kreider is stronger than most of the "tough guys" in the league. The kid is an unreal physical specimen. They may know how to throw punches better but they have to: A. catch Kreider first B. Not get thrown around by Kreider or bear hugged by him.

Aside from Chara & Scott, is there anyone who truly outclasses Kreider in strength? I don't think so.

 

[Wolfy*]

Something like this can happen, just much worse. Be careful out there, Kreider boy...I like you, but don't push it too far.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Something like this can happen, just much worse. Be careful out there, Kreider boy...I like you, but don't push it too far.

That was a young player having his head down in the neutral zone. Not him getting pounded to death by one of the leagues "tough guys". Kreider would erase Orpik from existence if they ever fought.

The video and what you are claiming is going to happen to Kreider are two completely different things.

 

[Doctyl]

You should have some respect for the heavyweight fighters, they will have a non-fighter like Kreider for lunch.

And a goon doesn't care about penalties if he has a mission, it's actually his job. Goon retaliation doesn't happen so much anymore, but it isn't gone either.

I have absolutely no respect for heavyweight fighters like. They dont belong in the NHL

John Scott literally has a lower career ppg than Brodeur. hes a ****ing joke. If an NHL coach wants him out there against Kreider-Stepan-MSL/Nash be my guest.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Something like this can happen, just much worse. Be careful out there, Kreider boy...I like you, but don't push it too far.

How is this at all analogous with the scenarios you've been describing?

 

[Doctyl]

Something like this can happen, just much worse. Be careful out there, Kreider boy...I like you, but don't push it too far.

FWIW that happened before Kreider ran anyone.

 

[JCrusher*]

Something like this can happen, just much worse. Be careful out there, Kreider boy...I like you, but don't push it too far.

wolf so far nobody has agreed with you so maybe its not correct lol

 

[bernmeister]

This isn't the 70's, 80's, or 90's any more. That isn't going to happen. You won't have a heavyweight pull Kreider aside and randomly beat the snot out of him. That would be met with a hefty suspension, fine and possibly even, a suspension for the coach. I would wager that Kreider is stronger than most of the "tough guys" in the league. The kid is an unreal physical specimen. They may know how to throw punches better but they have to: A. catch Kreider first B. Not get thrown around by Kreider or bear hugged by him.

Aside from Chara & Scott, is there anyone who truly outclasses Kreider in strength? I don't think so.

We don't want Kreider, esp. on a regular basis, doing anything that goes away from legit clean hard checks into goonery.

Fair play and sportsmanship aside, there is no upside in it.

A - every min Kreider in penalty box, we are deprived of a superior asset
B - I don't think most of the fighters could 'take' Kreider, but one or two lucky punches are not good, even if you win the bout.
C - The biggest risk is an accident happens and he breaks his hand.

THAT we don't need.

 

[JohnC]

You should have some respect for the heavyweight fighters, they will have a non-fighter like Kreider for lunch.

And a goon doesn't care about penalties if he has a mission, it's actually his job. Goon retaliation doesn't happen so much anymore, but it isn't gone either.

Lol please you probably think Zucc would win against the same heavyweights

 

[Doctyl]

Lol please you probably think Zucc would win against the same heavyweights

Zucc's presence on the ice is what has kept kreider from having his bell rung so far

 

[Greg02]

Lol please you probably think Zucc would win against the same heavyweights

Of course he would. They can't reach that far down.

 

[bernmeister]

Yeah let Kreider run into goalies until he gets destroyed by a goon. Then when he returns with a black eye and a concussion on his medical file he'll probably leave the goalies alone.

He has an equal right of way and does not have to yield, so if the goalie wants to ask for trouble he can do so at his own peril.

Yes, there is an exception. If it looks like Kreider is straight ahead charging the man, in this case a netminder, and not playing the puck, then I could see a penalty. Not otherwise.

And if Kreider was arguably forced into the goalie by another's play, that exception becomes more doubtful.