Early look for 2021 draft

[Oddbob]

I'm thinking more like Ekblad type year. Picking a D with #1OA is definitely not a sexy pick.

Or we could get our Hedman (He was #2OA though).

Yeah that would be ok, but what if it is an Erik Johnson year, as he was a Top pick once upon a time.

 

[Gniwder]

Yeah that would be ok, but what if it is an Erik Johnson year, as he was a Top pick once upon a time.

I know. I purposely avoided that, lol. So was Chris Philips. I had those names typed and deleted the whole sentence. Now you jinxed us.

We really need our D pick to be capable of more than 3 or 4 goals a season, that's for sure. Knock on wood...

 

[Oddbob]

I know. I purposely avoided that, lol. So was Chris Philips. I had those names typed and deleted the whole sentence. Now you jinxed us.

We really need our D pick to be capable of more than 3 or 4 goals a season, that's for sure. Knock on wood...

My Bad!

 

[Henkka]

I'm thinking more like Ekblad type year. Picking a D with #1OA is definitely not a sexy pick.

Or we could get our Hedman (He was #2OA though).

We already have our Hedman in Seider.

But I don't mind if we will have two Hedmans in the future.

 

[Gniwder]

We already have our Hedman in Seider.

But I don't mind if we will have two Hedmans in the future.

I wish. Seider isn't there offensively, and you know that. His shot isn't there at all, for a big guy he doesn;t get much flex in the stick.

This video is a year old so maybe there's been improvement:
Moritz Seider practices his shot at Red Wings training camp - YouTube

If there's a newer video or highlight, I'd like to see it....

I will say that I love watching his reverse hits. He's got that going for him.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Seems like Beniers is trending straight upward. But does he have the upside? I guess having two very good two-way centers wouldn't be the worst thing.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Seems like Beniers is trending straight upward. But does he have the upside? I guess having two very good two-way centers wouldn't be the worst thing.

I think he does have that upside.

My opinion.

 

[Henkka]

I wish. Seider isn't there offensively, and you know that. His shot isn't there at all, for a big guy he doesn;t get much flex in the stick.

I don't worry about his shot. Others should be worried about the cross-checks he'll put in in every contact.

Man I like that.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

I think he does have that upside.

My opinion.

I agree. I do not think he has more pure skill and hockey IQ than anyone in the class, but I do think he has a TON of upside as a player and could prove to be the best of the class.

 

[Frk It]

I think he does have that upside.

My opinion.

Same.

 

[Marky9er]

It's insane that 3 likely top 10 picks are on the same team. Especially when you consider it's December in 2 or 3 days and many prospects haven't played a game. There's got to be a player 2 months into a normal OHL/WHL season that'd be garnering top 10 or 15 talk. I think that plays to our advantage in round 2 if nobody is seeing them play. Francesco Pinelli, fall on down? I see Brennan Othmann has gone to Swiss league.

 

[Marky9er]

I think that XB has/will have a little bit inflated stats because he plays with Bourque and VP, he's a late bday also, but he's looking like a total beast. There's no way he makes it to round 2.

 

[Henkka]

My last rank included 37 players. Now there has been some extra ranks lately, so extended the list for 69 players.

Pick	AVG	Range	Pos	2021 draft	Size/Hand	Nat	Highest
1	2,0	1-4	LD	Owen Power	6'5 - L	CAN	1
2	4,1	1-6	RD	Brandt Clarke	6'1 - R	CAN	1
3	4,5	3-12	LD	Carson Lambos	6'1 - L	CAN	3
4	4,7	1-9	C/LW	Kent Johnson	6'1 - L	CAN	1
5	5,1	2-16	LD	Simon Edvinsson	6'4 - L	SWE	2
6	5,8	2-10	LD	Luke Hughes	6'0 - L	USA	2
7	6,9	1-11	RW	Dylan Guenther	6'2 - R	CAN	1
8	8,1	6-17	C	Matthew Beniers	6'0 - L	USA	7
9	9,4	1-25	C	Aatu Räty	6'1 - L	FIN	1
10	10,9	4-14	C	Chaz Lucius	6'1 - R	USA	4
11	13,6	8-21	LW	Cole Sillinger	6'0 - L	CAN	8
12	15,5	5-21	RW	Fabian Lysell	5'10 - R	SWE	5
13	16,4	10-25	LW	Zachary L'Heureux	5'11 - L	CAN	7
14	17,9	6-41	C	Zachary Bolduc	6'1 - L	CAN	6
15	19,0	4-18	C	Mason McTavish	6'1 - L	CAN	4
16	19,3	11-32	G	Jesper Wallstedt	6'3	SWE	11
17	20,5	10-28	LD	Daniil Chayka	6'2 - L	RUS	10
18	22,2	10-28	RW	Samu Tuomaala	5'10 - R	FIN	10
19	22,6	6-45	C/LW	William Eklund	5'10 - L	SWE	6
20	24,1	15-27	RW	Xavier Bourgault	5'11 - R	CAN	15
21	24,5	14-32	C	Logan Stankoven	5'8 - R	CAN	14
22	25,8	7-45	LW	Brennan Othmann	5'11 - L	CAN	7
23	25,9	5-64	LW	Oskar Olausson	6'2 - L	SWE	5
24	25,9	9-48	RD	Corson Ceulemans	6'2 - R	CAN	9
25	26,9	14-48	LW	Sasha Pastujov	6'0 - L	USA	14
26	28,6	11-36	LD	Aidan Hreschuk	5'11 - L	USA	11
27	28,7	17-53	RW	Nikita Chibrikov	5'10 - L	RUS	17
28	29,4	14-46	W	Simon Robertsson	6'0 - L	SWE	14
29	29,9	15-39	LD	Isaac Belliveau	6'0 - L	CAN	15
30	30,3	6-48	C	Daniil Lazutin	6'2 - L	RUS	6
31	32,3	11-85	W	Isak Rosen	5'10 - L	SWE	11
32	32,4	15-36	RW	Matthew Samoskevich	5'9 - R	USA	15
33	32,8	16-45	C	Jack O'Brien	6'0 - L	USA	22
34	32,9	12-40	LD	Stanislav Svozil	6'1 - L	CZE	12
35	33,7	19-52	C/LW	Dylan Duke	5'9 - L	USA	19
36	33,9	19-48	LW	Francesco Pinelli	6'0 - L	CAN	19
37	33,9	16-49	C	Zach Dean	6'0 - L	CAN	16
38	34,6	13-55	LW	Conner Roulette	5'11 - L	CAN	13
39	35,6	15-51	C	Ryder Korczak	5'10 - R	CAN	15
40	37,6	28-51	C/LW	Samu Salminen	6'2 - L	FIN	28
41	38,1	16-47	LD	Artem Grushnikov	6'2 - L	RUS	16
42	38,5	17-48	C	Brett Harrison	6'1 - L	CAN	17
43	39,8	22-52	LW	Joshua Roy	6'1 - L	CAN	22
44	40,4	9-60	LD	Sean Behrens	5'8 - L	USA	9
45	41,1	28-54	LD	Anton Olsson	6'1 - L	SWE	28
46	42,3	15-68	LW	Matthew Coronato	5'10 - R	USA	15
47	42,8	13-58	RD	Roman Schmidt	6'5 - R	USA	13
48	42,8	23-56	C	Matthew Knies	6'2 - L	USA	23
49	44,8	29-60	RW	Prokhor Poltapov	5'10 - L	RUS	29
50	45,4	24-66	RD	Dmitry Kostenko	6'0 - R	RUS	24
51	46,3	15-75	C	Lorenzo Canonica	5'11 - L	SUI	16
52	48,8	27-67	C	James Malatesta	5'9 - L	CAN	27
53	49,4	25-55	C	Wyatt Johnston	5'11 - R	CAN	25
54	50,3	27-58	LD	Cameron Whynot	6'2 - L	CAN	27
55	51,1	33-61	W	Justin Janicke	5'11 - L	USA	33
56	51,9	31-60	C	Cole Huckins	6'4 - L	CAN	31
57	53,8	35-63	W	Fedor Svechkov	6'0 - L	RUS	35
58	53,9	25-80	C	Justin Robidas	5'7 - R	CAN	25
59	54,5	31-70	C	Peter Reynolds	5'10 - L	CAN	31
60	55,8	33-72	C	Connor Lockhart	5'9 - R	CAN	33
61	56,4	37-71	RW	Chase Stillman	5'11 - R	CAN	37
62	56,6	31-73	LW	Gabe Klassen	5'10 - L	CAN	31
63	57,5	37-57	RD	Oscar Plandowski	5'11 - R	CAN	37
65	58,0	16-70	LW	Martin Rysavy	6'2 - L	CZE	16
66	58,4	37-120	LW	William Strömgren	6'2 - L	SWE	37
67	59,0	33-71	G	Sebastian Cossa	6'4	CAN	33
68	60,0	37-115	RD	Scott Morrow	6'2 - R	USA	37
69	60,8	16-168	LD	Jimi Suomi	5'9 - L	FIN	16

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Outside the 1st round guys, these are players that could move up from their current rank, IMO.

Zac Dean
Brennan Othmann
Justin Robidas
Logan Mailloux
Chase Stillman
Kalle Vaisanen
Dylan Duke
Connor Lockhart
Pavel Tyutnev(overage)

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

My last rank included 37 players. Now there has been some extra ranks lately, so extended the list for 69 players.

Nice.

On a serious note, thanks for sharing the update. On first glance, Eklund at #19 stands out to me, especially with his range from #6-45. To me his been the closest thing to a stand-out center this year, and I imagine by draft day he'll be close to a consensus top 10 player. Wouldn't be surprised if he goes top 5. Differentiating Power, Hughes, Lambos, Edvinsson, and Clarke is going to be a headache for scouts. Five impressive blue line prospects, five different styles, five different leagues. I don't envy the GM who has to pick his favorite (although I hope it's Yzerman).

 

[Henkka]

Nice.

On a serious note, thanks for sharing the update. On first glance, Eklund at #19 stands out to me, especially with his range from #6-45. To me his been the closest thing to a stand-out center this year, and I imagine by draft day he'll be close to a consensus top 10 player. Wouldn't be surprised if he goes top 5. Differentiating Power, Hughes, Lambos, Edvinsson, and Clarke is going to be a headache for scouts. Five impressive blue line prospects, five different styles, five different leagues. I don't envy the GM who has to pick his favorite (although I hope it's Yzerman).

Yep, Eklund has been coming like 13 --> 9 -->6 on latest ranks. Those 45 spots are from last season.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

It is hard to put too much stock in any draft list at this point given how little hockey has been played in North America this season to date.

 

[Henkka]

It is hard to put too much stock in any draft list at this point given how little hockey has been played in North America this season to date.

Yep, one list is meaningless. But I merged multiple together, and then there's not "too much stock" in any list.

What was played at 2019-20 will matter as well. In every draft.

 

[Pavels Dog]

I wish. Seider isn't there offensively, and you know that. His shot isn't there at all, for a big guy he doesn;t get much flex in the stick.

This video is a year old so maybe there's been improvement:
Moritz Seider practices his shot at Red Wings training camp - YouTube

If there's a newer video or highlight, I'd like to see it....

I will say that I love watching his reverse hits. He's got that going for him.

I agree his shot is still a bit of a weakness but it's not some hopeless case. He uses his wristshot for the most part but uses it to good effect and gets it on net through traffic.

 

[Gniwder]

I agree his shot is still a bit of a weakness but it's not some hopeless case. He uses his wristshot for the most part but uses it to good effect and gets it on net through traffic.

He doesn't get much flex even on his wristers.

On this shot, no flex and no follow through. His momentum helped get some speed on the puck, but not an NHL level shot, even if it did go in.

He needs a lot of work on his shot, he should be wailing on some pucks in practice, just to get some flex on the stick and some follow through. Not worrying about placement yet. Maybe use a softer flex, and let the stick do the work, I dunno.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Yep, Eklund has been coming like 13 --> 9 -->6 on latest ranks. Those 45 spots are from last season.

William Eklund has been making Alex Holtz look incredible. Great playmaking ability, great puck protection capabilities. The kid is looking like a for sure top 10 pick.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

ok. n

 

[Pavels Dog]

He doesn't get much flex even on his wristers.

On this shot, no flex and no follow through. His momentum helped get some speed on the puck, but not an NHL level shot, even if it did go in.

He needs a lot of work on his shot, he should be wailing on some pucks in practice, just to get some flex on the stick and some follow through. Not worrying about placement yet. Maybe use a softer flex, and let the stick do the work, I dunno.

I would agree the shot needs work, don't think it's a major issue at this point in his development since he is getting good results from the shots he's using.

Nice.

On a serious note, thanks for sharing the update. On first glance, Eklund at #19 stands out to me, especially with his range from #6-45. To me his been the closest thing to a stand-out center this year

He's playing wing though and will probably stay as such.

 

[Gniwder]

I would agree the shot needs work, don't think it's a major issue at this point in his development since he is getting good results from the shots he's using.

The conversation started with Henkka comparing Seider to Hedman. Probably not fair to use an elite player like that as a comparison, but he had 21 pts in 43 games in the SHL in his draft season, and his mechanics were far better.

Pre Draft Video:
Victor Hedman | Victor Hedman Profile | Victor Hedman Scouting Report 2009

The point was he's not close to being Hedman because he has no shot. Go back and read through the posts, that was my comment.

 

[Pavels Dog]

The conversation started with Henkka comparing Seider to Hedman. Probably not fair to use an elite player like that as a comparison, but he had 21 pts in 43 games in the SHL in his draft season, and his mechanics were far better.

Pre Draft Video:
Victor Hedman | Victor Hedman Profile | Victor Hedman Scouting Report 2009

The point was he's not close to being Hedman because he has no shot. Go back and read through the posts, that was my comment.

Seider has some things over Hedman at a comparable age, I think stylistically it's still a decent comparison.