Value of: Dylan Larkin to Montreal

[DingDongCharlie]

Larkin was barely 0.5PPG last season and carries a 6M caphit. What am I missing?

At 22 he had a 30 goal, 70 point season and is easily the wings best C and they wouldn’t be interested in selling low after a bad season

 

[HuGo Sham]

The simple answer is "you can't".
The slightly more elaborate answer is "start with Suzuki, then add enough to bribe the entire Detroit Red Wings fanbase - each and every individual fan - into calmly accepting the loss of their beloved hometown hero."

It ain't gonna happen.


Besides, if he goes anywhere, we all know it'll be to Columbus so he can play with his childhood friend Werenski. It's inevitable.

aaaaaaand thread /

 

[CarolinaBlueJacket]

Somehow you would need to involve CBJ because everyone knows that is where he wants to end up. It's a fact and you cannot argue it.

 

[wingsfan17]

I wish we'd trade Larkin before teams realize he's trash, but I don't see it happening. Especially with Detroit being paper thin at center.

 

[drw02]

I wish we'd trade Larkin before teams realize he's trash, but I don't see it happening. Especially with Detroit being paper thin at center.

He had a down year playing in Blashill's overly conservative, defensive minded system with an entire defense that was incapable of transitioning pucks up ice. Pretty horrendous take

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

I wish we'd trade Larkin before teams realize he's trash, but I don't see it happening. Especially with Detroit being paper thin at center.

Literally whenever Larkin has had anything resembling talent around him, he has been great. He's not Connor McDavid in that he can succeed 100% on his own. But Dylan Larkin is a very good hockey player.

 

[zar]

I'm not making trades with Yzerman or Sakic under any circumstances we're going to end up in a bath tub missing a kidney

These 2 guys just cannot unlink themselves from the other. Awesome players and GMs. I don’t know if there are 2 more parallel people in the history of NHL world. It’s amazing.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Not even close, Larkins value is half the value of Jack Eichel. And that doesn't even come close to getting a conversation started with Eichel. You need to offer far more then this to have Larkin moved to a divisional foe.

I think you're overvaluing Eichel.

Buffalo is asking for the moon for Eichel thinking they're trading 2019-20 Eichel.
What they're actually trading is 2020-21 Eichel is a neck surgery that needs to be done ASAP if he wants to sniff more than half of the season.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

These 2 guys just cannot unlink themselves from the other. Awesome players and GMs. I don’t know if there are 2 more parallel people in the history of NHL world. It’s amazing.

 

[yianik]

Habs would have just kept Danault, that would have just cost money, not all these assets

 

[CarolinaBlueJacket]

View attachment 459027

May have more to do with Hull's dislike of Avery than his respect for Sakic.

 

[Steeler23]

Not even close, Larkins value is half the value of Jack Eichel. And that doesn't even come close to getting a conversation started with Eichel. You need to offer far more then this to have Larkin moved to a divisional foe.

While I think the offer isn't good enough for Detroit to consider trading Larkin, if his price is half the Eichel price (which was reported to be equal to 4 1st round pick), KK + 1st 22 is in fact half the supposed Eichel price.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Larkin was barely 0.5PPG last season and carries a 6M caphit. What am I missing?

Larkin was playing hurt all season long, He stated that at his season ending presser. Plus we lost Bertuzzi early and Mantha played like s**t costing his numbers to tank.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

While I think the offer isn't good enough for Detroit to consider trading Larkin, if his price is half the Eichel price (which was reported to be equal to 4 1st round pick), KK + 1st 22 is in fact half the supposed Eichel price.

Mantha returned Vrana plus Panik and a 1st and 2nd round pick. So Larkin at least returns double that.

 

[Techcoockie]

wings fan and their fixation with a god complex on Steve Yzerman is soooo weird.

"he never lose a trade and always WIN" stfu you sound like a high Dj khaled.

 

[Steeler23]

Mantha returned Vrana plus Panik and a 1st and 2nd round pick. So Larkin at least returns double that.

It's okay, but I was responding at your comment about "half of Eichel price", which is stated to be the equivalent of 4 1st round pick, and KK and 1st 22 are good piece.

BUT again, I understand and I also think it's not enough for Detroit since Larkin brings more to Detroit than he would with any other teams.

 

[Techcoockie]

Mantha returned Vrana plus Panik and a 1st and 2nd round pick. So Larkin at least returns double that.

Mantha is still, and will still be, a damn strong top 6 winger and might do better than Vrana....

 

[yianik]

May have more to do with Hull's dislike of Avery than his respect for Sakic.

Hope this is true, because its a great story.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Mantha is still, and will still be, a damn strong top 6 winger and might do better than Vrana....

Mantha has the tools to be a 35/35 guy, He's just too lazy to show up every night and put in an honest effort.

 

[wingsfan17]

Larkin is a fine player, but man is he overrated, ESPECIALLY in the state of Michigan. I feel like I'm the only one not looking through homer glasses. I'm assuming it's just because we haven't much to look forward to for years so people hype him up. Good second line center? Sure. First line center? Hell no. Best player on our team/ "the future"? I sure hope not.

The two rebuttals to me saying he suck (which I admit is an exaggeration) were he plays well when he has good linemates (who doesn't?). And he played a defensive scheme last year (while going -14 in 41 games).

To me Larkin screams David Legwand type career. Solid center for many years, but I don't see much more than that. If teams want to overpay because they still think he has All-pro/HOF potential, I'd definitely be looking to move him. Even though I'm down on him I'd still need a decent return to move him because I think his contract is pretty nice. I agree it is very unlikely to happen though.

 

[Bruce Granville]

Larkin wants to play with Werenski and will go as an UFA to Columbus.

 

[lucaseider]

aaaaaaand thread /

Naw, went that way the first time a Habs fan said Suzuki is already better than Larkin.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

The problem with asking for Larkin is his value to Detroit is far higher than it is to a team trying to acquire him, right now he is the face of the Detroit Red Wings, and you'd have to overpay by far more than any GM would be willing to do

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Suzuki is worth more than Larkin in my opinion.

Larkin is 25, capable of putting up 60 points, is from Michigan, and is Detroit’s captain. It’s safe to say he’s not getting moved.

The same goes for Suzuki. He’s not going anywhere.

Except Larkin already put up 73pts / 76gp in '18-'19, in one of our 2 worst post-Cap years.

So ppg C is what he is capable of, because he's already done that over a full season. 70-80+ in his peak, once we've got a better roster & 4 actual top4 D + actual 6 Top6 F' etc.

 

[Be a Hab]

The problem with asking for Larkin is his value to Detroit is far higher than it is to a team trying to acquire him, right now he is the face of the Detroit Red Wings, and you'd have to overpay by far more than any GM would be willing to do

I agree and same could be said about Suzuki for Montreal. I'm a Habs fan and a Suzuki fan as well, but I say "Let's wait a couple more seasons before calling him the next big thing". He still needs to prove he can be a Consistent NHL player for a 82 games season. But last year's 41 points in 56 games was a step in the right direction for Suzuki.