Rumor: Dumba deal in the works... several teams interested

[Positive Vibes]

I'm not at all upset. The Wild need to address their need at center this summer. They also obviously need to decide what they're going to do about their dmen and the expansion draft before the expansion draft happens. For posters to continually say that this trade only makes sense if it happens after the expansion draft is just pure ignorance.

i dont disagree just came off and kind of aggressive to me idk

 

[AKL]

You do understand that the only difference between a center and a winger is their ability to play defense?

Why isn't Vegas using Stone at center then? He would no doubt be their best option.

 

[Legegendsofthenorth]

Why isn't Vegas using Stone at center then? He would no doubt be their best option.

Sneak attack tactic

 

[2Pair]

Why isn't Vegas using Stone at center then? He would no doubt be their best option.

Probably because he doesn't have the skating? Maybe they prefer to have him on the wall for their breakouts? Maybe he just doesn't want to play center? There are always a handful of wingers that seem like they could/should be playing center. Marian Hossa had every tool necessary to play center and was a wing his whole career.

 

[AKL]

Probably because he doesn't have the skating? Maybe they prefer to have him on the wall for their breakouts? Maybe he just doesn't want to play center? There are always a handful of wingers that seem like they could/should be playing center. Marian Hossa had every tool necessary to play center and was a wing his whole career.

So to be clear, defense is not the only difference?

 

[Captain Mountain]

You do understand that the only difference between a center and a winger is their ability to play defense?

Wow, that's aggressively incorrect.

 

[HOPE]

We don't need defensive centers, we need top 6 offensive centers. If they can play defense too that's a cherry on top.

don't you want to draft Lundell tho? lol

 

[Legegendsofthenorth]

don't you want to draft Lundell tho? lol

Haha...I was thinking this very thing when it was said.

 

[AKL]

don't you want to draft Lundell tho? lol

Yeah I would take him depending on who else is available, but I'm not trading Dumba for him, am I?

 

[2Pair]

So to be clear, defense is not the only difference?

What's the difference in the offensive zone?

 

[Legegendsofthenorth]

don't you want to draft Lundell tho? lol

I want three Centers that are good in all 200 feet.

 

[A Loyal Dog]

Sorry, I figured that you were capable of putting it all together. My mistake.

I don’t get why some of you need to resort to insults. Keep your insults to yourself.

 

[HOPE]

Yeah I would take him depending on who else is available, but I'm not trading Dumba for him, am I?

No but you say you are looking for a 2C, there will be better option at the draft as BPA.

 

[AKL]

No but you say you are looking for a 2C, there will be better option at the draft as BPA.

Sure, there could be. Depends on how the first 8 picks go. A lot of the guys listed as centers don't project to be centers in the NHL though. There's also a handful of guys likely available at 9 come draft day that I would take before Lundell, so I'm not sure what your point is.

 

[ole ole]

Minnesota doesn't care about your expansion draft protection slots. Think

But we do.Think.

 

[Halla]

Lol, it’s good to dream. I want McDavid, MacKinnon, Hedman all on my team.

There’s no way the Habs ever entertain Suzuki for anyone. Danault? Yeah. Danault for Dumba is something I would entertain. Not Domi, not Suzuki. I wouldn’t trade KK just yet either.

so mcdavid,matthews,draisaitl,pasta,mackinnon...dont get it done lol

I remember pre 2016 overvaluing good players and putting them into a tier they didnt belong just because there was nothing else to do lol

 

[Legegendsofthenorth]

Sure, there could be. Depends on how the first 8 picks go. A lot of the guys listed as centers don't project to be centers in the NHL though. There's also a handful of guys likely available at 9 come draft day that I would take before Lundell, so I'm not sure what your point is.

Isn't every team looking for 3 2Cs in reality.

1Cs are like franchise QBs. Once you get one you never let them go. I know, I know, there are outlier examples but in general they stay where they are at.

If we could get 2 50-60 centers and 1 up and comer. I think teams can be competitive with this practice. Especially with wing drivers

 

[HOPE]

Sure, there could be. Depends on how the first 8 picks go. A lot of the guys listed as centers don't project to be centers in the NHL though. There's also a handful of guys likely available at 9 come draft day that I would take before Lundell, so I'm not sure what your point is.

Point as nothing to do with a trade**, just find it odd you say you guys don't need defensive Center and you would be willing to draft Lundell at 9.

 

[AKL]

Point as nothing to do with that, just find it odd you say you guys don't need defensive Center and you would be willing to draft Lundell at 9.

Team doesn't need RD either but I'd take Drysdale at 9

 

[Positive Vibes]

so mcdavid,matthews,draisaitl,pasta,mackinnon...dont get it done lol

I remember pre 2016 overvaluing good players and putting them into a tier they didnt belong just because there was nothing else to do lol

think its kind of weird for you to respond like that tbh,your naming people that would never be offered up anyway also have you ever seen Suzuki before?

 

[HOPE]

Team doesn't need RD either but I'd take Drysdale at 9

I mean Drysdale at 9 is exellent value and has huge top4 upside and fair complimentary top pairing upside.
Lundell is a good prospect but likely projects as a high end 3C/ very average 2C

 

[AKL]

I mean Drysdale at 9 is exellent value and has huge top4 upside and fair complimentary top pairing upside.
Lundell is a good prospect but likely projects as a high end 3C/ very average 2C

A 3C is pretty much his floor.

Like I said, there are a handful of guys that are realistically available at 9 that I would take before him, so I'm really not sure what you're trying to prove.

I make my trades based on what the team needs, I draft based on who the best player available is. This is a trade discussion that you, for some reason, have brought draft philosophy in to.

 

[TaLoN]

Point as nothing to do with a trade**, just find it odd you say you guys don't need defensive Center and you would be willing to draft Lundell at 9.

Whomever is drafted at 9 certainly isn't on the team next season, or likely in 2-3 seasons. You don't draft by current need only, you draft by BPA according to your draft board. You only choose by your needs when you need to break ties in BPA on your draft board.

This being a trade discussion though, trades are made based on current team needs. Thus very different basis in how you approach what you're looking for.

 

[HotDish]

You crack a few Mich goldens for me and I could convince myself to do Domi + 2nd round draft pick for Dumba. However I wouldn’t move Brodin for that.

I’d do Danault for Brodin though.

 

[A Loyal Dog]

so mcdavid,matthews,draisaitl,pasta,mackinnon...dont get it done lol

I remember pre 2016 overvaluing good players and putting them into a tier they didnt belong just because there was nothing else to do lol

Lmao. Do you really think one of McDavid/Matthews/Draisaitl/MacKinnon would be offered for Suzuki? Really?! Hey, if you're offering Matthews for Suzuki, since Matthews is on your team, then yeah - let's make that trade You'll save lots of cap (so you could go get Pietrangelo, etc) and get a player who's projected 2C floor and elite 1C ceiling!

I'm saying according to his value/what he could get, there's no chance he would be traded away. Not for what he brings us.