Yeah I was just twisting the knife a bit at the end.
Probably not the case - but I doubt they'll trade all 3 by the deadline.
Even if no one signs by then.
Proposal: Duchene to Winnipeg, Stone to Calgary, Dzingel & Pageau to Edmonton, Ceci to Minnesota
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Yeah I was just twisting the knife a bit at the end.
Probably not the case - but I doubt they'll trade all 3 by the deadline.
Even if no one signs by then.
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Both Dzingel and Pageau will both gets 1sts.
Pageau is criminally underrated. He's one of best players.
1. The Hossa trade to PIT was in 2008 .... which kinda proves my point?
- Can Dorion get two different teams to do what no one has done in a decade? (No)
- I also said "for a single player" & PIT got Dupuis in the deal as well (disqualified).
2. The return on Brassard was exactly as predicted .... not great?
- They traded a 2018 3rd & received a 2019 3rd in that deal (so no 3rd gained).
- The 2019 3rd from PIT will be 15-20 spots worse then the 64th pick they traded (loss).
- The trade looks way better in hindsight (Brassard dropped off a cliff in PIT).
3. The Alex Burrows trade was not a cap-dump in any way (1 for 1 cap-dump)?
- Dorion thought trading a prospect for Burrows would improve the team.
- Burrows was on an expiring contract with a less than $1,000,000 left to pay.
- Dorion re-signed Burrows that summer (do people re-sign cap-dumps?).
- It was just a bad trade & signing by Dorion.
You still have three questions to answer my friend ....
He’s a bottom 6 player. If your team has Pageau in the top 6, your team sucks
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The first two were answered. The third... was flimsy at best. Either way, you've proven to be unreasonable.
Dzingel might get a 1st as he's having a good year.
Pageau would never get a f***ing 1st. No GM cares what he did in one playoff series 2 years ago
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I dont think this person knows what hockey trading is. It not going into nhl 17 and making the cpu take all trade you offer.
Comeeee back to earth
Comeeee back to earth
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If Matt is indeed traded I hope they get an absolute haul for him. The only guy who could be available and is anywhere close to as good as he is is the guy on the same team. If the Sens play this right they could set themselves up pretty damn well for the future. their drafting has always been outstanding, so getting a lot of ammunition for their scouts is what they should aim for.
if they opt to trade them, Duchene, Stone and Dzingel should all return 2019 1st rounders with ease, and then Stone and Duchene should garner plenty on top of that as well, especially if Ottawa allows them to talk about an extension with their new team. please don't f*** it up Melnyk and Dorion and build on the foundation of Chabot, Brady, Lajoie, Batherson, Formenton ...
if they opt to trade them, Duchene, Stone and Dzingel should all return 2019 1st rounders with ease, and then Stone and Duchene should garner plenty on top of that as well, especially if Ottawa allows them to talk about an extension with their new team. please don't f*** it up Melnyk and Dorion and build on the foundation of Chabot, Brady, Lajoie, Batherson, Formenton ...
At the trade deadline not getting close to that value with out conditions on the trades. As its a rental player
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Dzingel Not bring a first round
Duchene could be first with Potential
Prospect or 2prospect with 2 round truning to 1 if past second round etc
Stone not bring what you people are asking Ottawa fan are over ranking him yes hes a good star but nothing big. Its most likly a 1 with High Prospect and medium Prospect as a base line with more than likely conditional trade factors like resign or making to final etc
Hes a rental not getting Stone with 2 or 3years
Duchene could be first with Potential
Prospect or 2prospect with 2 round truning to 1 if past second round etc
Stone not bring what you people are asking Ottawa fan are over ranking him yes hes a good star but nothing big. Its most likly a 1 with High Prospect and medium Prospect as a base line with more than likely conditional trade factors like resign or making to final etc
Hes a rental not getting Stone with 2 or 3years
Lots of good teams have Pageau type players in the top 6. Heck, we have Frolik in ours. I like him, but he's a third liner in reality.
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Eh, I dunno know about that. Maybe a 2nd/3rd line tweener, but other than last year (which I am willing to write off due to his broken face), Frolik has been a pretty consistent half a point per game two-way player since leaving the Hawks (he was that before Chicago too).
Don't get me wrong. I like Frolik, but he's played on good lines. I agree he's a middle six player. Just think people sleep on Pageau a bit. He's never played with anyone and is a good all around player. You win with guys like him and Frolik. That said, neither guy is anywhere close to landing a 1st in a trade. Also the Flames should be looking for another Bennett/Ferland type, not another Frolik IMO.
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I would put Frolik a bit higher than Pageau personally, but otherwise I agree with everything you said.
Why would they trade a young player for an older player who's not doing much better?
The thing is Ottawa isnt in that grant of a place to negotiate
If teams dont want to over pay they dont have to and duchene could walk away for free
