Cousin Eddie
You Serious Clark?
- Nov 3, 2006
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Don’t say that. I’m not sure if it’s mutual or not.So happy for you guys.
Don’t say that. I’m not sure if it’s mutual or not.So happy for you guys.
Good comparison Eddie. He has more puck skills than i thought given scouting reports. The WJC was my first viewing of him and what stood out to me was his decision making. I kept saying to myself 'nice play', then noticing it was Helleson.The college thing scares me but his play is making me fall drastically in love with him. He’s starting to remind me of Philippe Myers with a little less skill but he’s even showing some skill and confidence lately
I feel like Helleson is going to prove a lot of people wrong who didn't like that pick.
I always liked the pick because the reports were he was exactly what we'll need at the time he's NHL-ready. A smart, defensive-minded player who has good passing ability. That's exactly what we'll need because we already have enough flashing puck-carrying defensemen on the team and in the system. We'll need guys who can be defense first but aren't just going to ice it when they have it on their stick. If his offensive skills keep developing that's just a bonus and will keep those people happy (you know who you are) who seem to only value offensive defensemen.
Definitely something to be said about a steady defensive presence who can PK and, maybe more importantly, keep a reasonable cap number over the long term.I always liked the pick because the reports were he was exactly what we'll need at the time he's NHL-ready. A smart, defensive-minded player who has good passing ability. That's exactly what we'll need because we already have enough flashing puck-carrying defensemen on the team and in the system. We'll need guys who can be defense first but aren't just going to ice it when they have it on their stick. If his offensive skills keep developing that's just a bonus and will keep those people happy (you know who you are) who seem to only value offensive defensemen.
Can’t say I was as high on him at the draft, but he’s developing much better than I anticipated. I might even trade Barron ahead of him honestly, if they needed to part ways with a prospect at some point.
I would wait until the much often injured Timmins can actually play a full season. Helleson has less of an upside and would consider packaging to the Sens for 2 of their 2nds (own 3 picks) to reunite with Sanderson.
This 100%.I wouldn't trade a guy who has already shown positive development for more magic beans that might amount to nothing. If we're moving Helleson, it better be as part of a deal for a guy who can help us win a cup now. Otherwise, I'm happy to keep him.
Very true. Also, you need foot soldiers like Helleson to win championships. Im not trading him unless its for a serious upgrade today. So weird talking like this. At one point we had no dman to look forward too now we have too many.I wouldn't trade a guy who has already shown positive development for more magic beans that might amount to nothing. If we're moving Helleson, it better be as part of a deal for a guy who can help us win a cup now. Otherwise, I'm happy to keep him.
It's cool that we can trade Barron for Danault later.Some of these guys will get traded... I can't see all three of Timmins, Barron, and Helleson with the organization by March 2022. At a certain point the Avs will need some sweeteners to add to trades and these are good, valuable pieces to the right teams. A 1st + Barron gets a solid 2nd line player on a decent contract at any forward position. It could buy a steal of a contract for a 2nd line winger/3c. Or a high end 1st line player on an expiring deal. As the expectation of Cup runs climb, these guys will end up assets and sweeteners more than projections for succession planning.
I wouldn't trade a guy who has already shown positive development for more magic beans that might amount to nothing. If we're moving Helleson, it better be as part of a deal for a guy who can help us win a cup now. Otherwise, I'm happy to keep him.
I wouldn't trade a guy who has already shown positive development for more magic beans that might amount to nothing. If we're moving Helleson, it better be as part of a deal for a guy who can help us win a cup now. Otherwise, I'm happy to keep him.
AVs problem is having too many good prospects. I still believe either Timmins (injuries) or Helleson (less upside) would be moved.
It's cool that we can trade Barron for Danault later.
AVs problem is having too many good prospects. I still believe either Timmins (injuries) or Helleson (less upside) would be moved.
Of course they would.I think they'd keep Barron over Timmins. Less health risk and he's younger and will be on his ELC longer.
Timmins is up for a raise next off season. He may not get a big one, but if he becomes a regular this season he'll get a little more money, and the Avs don't have much to go around anymore.
Imagine that you trade Barron, and then a month later Timmins suffers another concussion. Can't be taking that risk.I think they'd keep Barron over Timmins. Less health risk and he's younger and will be on his ELC longer.
Timmins is up for a raise next off season. He may not get a big one, but if he becomes a regular this season he'll get a little more money, and the Avs don't have much to go around anymore.
So it looks like he's strongly on Team USA radar for the Olympics which is nice.
Well if fricking Sampo Ranta played 2 playoff games for us last year, I'm all for giving Helleson a look down the stretch.Good for him. Should really solidify his spot as a Top D prospect around the league and especially if he does well in the tournament it could really drive his value up, which is both a positive and a negative as if we don't trade him it might be tougher to sign him in April as well.