Draft and UDFA Thread 2017-18

[Mac n Gs]

Central scouting released their new rankings. Top 15 from eaxh:

International skaters:
Dahlin
Boqvist
Kravtsov
Kaut
Ginning - why?
Kotkaniemi
Denisenko
Lunderstrom
Olofsson
Filip Johansson
Kupari
Bokk
Hallander
Lundkvist
Fehervary

NA:
Svech
Tkachuk
Zadina
Bouchard
Dobson
Hughes
Wahlstrom
Veleno
Hayton
Noel -ugh
Sandin
Farabee
McIsaac
Ty Smith -wow
Akil Thomas

Notables: Wilde (17), Groulx (20), K Miller (23), Jack Drury (27), Merkley (45), Pivonka (105)

 

[Kovalev27]

Look at those risers. Bouchard and Dobson 4 5 and kaut flying to 4 for the euros. I was really really hoping a few months ago that kaut would be sitting there easy at our third first rounder or first 2nd rounder. Now be lucky he gets passed 20 overall.

 

[Kovalev27]

And I am DEFINITELY taking Wilde late first early second if I can.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Wilde would have to drop for them to take him that late.

All the mocks hve him going in the 13-17 range

 

[offdacrossbar]

4 and 12 on the NA side pls

 

[NYRFANMANI]

And I am DEFINITELY taking Wilde late first early second if I can.

In what world will Wilde drop to late 1st or EARLY 2ND?!

On average he's projected easily in the top 20. But maybe I'm not up to date on the mocks.

 

[I Eat Crow]

In what world will Wilde drop to late 1st or EARLY 2ND?!

Honestly, I can see it.

There are a lot of risers that may jump over him. A lot of teams in the 10 to 20 range may look to get a safer player like Hayton, Lundestrom, Veleno, Smith, or McLeod.

Wilde's ability is not being questioned. The likelihood of him putting it all together and being an NHL'er is lower than those aforementioned safer picks. His ceiling is higher, but his floor is much lower.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

In what world will Wilde drop to late 1st or EARLY 2ND?!

On average he's projected easily in the top 20. But maybe I'm not up to date on the mocks.

A poor u18 could absolutely cause that to happen.

However, a really good one could push him into the top 10.

 

[Kovalev27]

look at those risers he could absolutely drop to the bottom of the first round or early 2nd.

 

[rickardr]

Central scouting released their new rankings. Top 15 from eaxh:

International skaters:
Dahlin
Boqvist
Kravtsov
Kaut
Ginning - why?
Kotkaniemi
Denisenko
Lunderstrom
Olofsson
Filip Johansson
Kupari
Bokk
Hallander
Lundkvist
Fehervary

NA:
Svech
Tkachuk
Zadina
Bouchard
Dobson
Hughes
Wahlstrom
Veleno
Hayton
Noel -ugh
Sandin
Farabee
McIsaac
Ty Smith -wow
Akil Thomas

Notables: Wilde (17), Groulx (20), K Miller (23), Jack Drury (27), Merkley (45), Pivonka (105)

Ginning, lol

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Yeah, lotta risers around it seems. Don't get me wrong I'll gladly take him low 1st. Totally.

Just stay put with the picks. Maybe try to get a 4th ... 1st round pick? (I'd like that)

 

[JimmyG89]

Tkachuk being listed over Zadina is interesting. They are two different players, but the top end skill of Zadina is at another level from the small amount I've seen both.

If the Rangers could win the lottery (getting the 3rd pick), is there a chance that some team that really wants Tkachuk wants to move up and they could slide down a pick or two, grab Zadina and more assets?

I could also see us moving up to ##4-5 to get a Zadina or Boqvist, if they don't land top 3.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Central Scouting is bad, I wouldn't pay much attention to what they say. I think thats one of the only lists that I don't even look at.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Zadina-Chytil ... oh man, this draft is gonna give me PTSD

 

[Irishguy42]

Zadina-Chytil ... oh man, this draft is gonna give me PTSD

Get Kaut too with a later pick.

Zadina-Chytil-Kaut

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Zadina-Chytil-Kaut

I can't handle shit like joyous anticipation dude!

 

[Ghost of jas]

Wilde would have to drop for them to take him that late.

All the mocks hve him going in the 13-17 range

The ISS rankings just released look to have him around 20. What might have him go earlier would be if we see a run on Dmen.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Win 2nd OA and take Svechnikov.

Trade for another top 10 pick and have Boqvist drop.

Best of both worlds.

 

[Kovalev27]

Get Kaut too with a later pick.

Zadina-Chytil-Kaut

and we've got hajek feeding them pucks the gang back together.

 

[GregSirico]

Svechnikov stays No. 1 in Central Scouting final rankings

Tkachuk over Zadina?
Bouchard over Hughes?

 

[RangerBoy]

 

[Trxjw]

Almieda intrigues me a lot.

He was a kid who came in with high expectations and treaded a bit of water for a while. But this season he put a lot of pieces together and showed why he was a high WHL draft pick. Of course the question is whether he can continue that progress moving forward without Howden, Burke or Halbgewachs next season, but he’s certainly back on the radar.

I would entertain using a second on him.

Day, Duclair, McColgan, etc. The Rangers always seem to identify a guy like this they can take in the mid rounds. Given that he's a year closer to turning pro, I could see him going with their extra second but maybe more likely their own 3rd. Either him or Jake Wise. Hell, maybe both.

 

[GregSirico]

"If you wanted to pick one player from the 2018 draft who could potentially be viewed as a generational talent, Rasmus would be the only candidate. There is that much respect for him and his abilities."

 

[Edge]

Day, Duclair, McColgan, etc. The Rangers always seem to identify a guy like this they can take in the mid rounds. Given that he's a year closer to turning pro, I could see him going with their extra second but maybe more likely their own 3rd. Either him or Jake Wise. Hell, maybe both.

It would seem that he would be a kid they’d have spent some time seeing, especially considering their familiarity with Howden and I’m goong to assume the research they did on Woo.

 

[Trxjw]

It would seem that he would be a kid they’d have spent some time seeing, especially considering their familiarity with Howden and I’m goong to assume the research they did on Woo.

Yep. Seems like a reasonable scenario.