Roboturner913
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Speculation: Dougie Hamilton Negotiations (Pt. 2)
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Nikishin Go Boom
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Roboturner913
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Why would you not ask him? I get if you were to not share but it's definitely a discussion I would have with a friend so just curious...
And you have to wonder how much RBA's input counts in the machinations of the BORG.
Yeah, I understand that perspective. I just don’t feel like it’s terribly appropriate for me to ask, that’s all.
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People have different kind of inter-personal relationships. One person has different approach to what kind of matters they communicate with people than other person, and one person also can have different kinds of communication relationships varuing from one person to other of those who they communicate with.
In some setups you don't pry into your friend's professional matters, either with that particular friend, or you personally just don't with any friend.
In some other setups, you have a file cabinet full of your friend's child welfare documents.
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On the one hand, good on them for sticking to their morals and drawing a line...remember how many folks threatened to move to Canada after the last election if Trump/Hillary won, and again with Trump/Biden, yet nobody moved after either? On the other hand, leaving for something outside of your control that had a lot more going on in the background (private conversations between TDA/RBA/DW/TD/former-Rangers) seems short-sighted to me perosnally. Unless maybe it's just the culmination of the way things with Foegele/Bean/Ned/Hamilton went (or in general their handling of negotiations) + Forslund + Kaiton + TDA...I could definitely see someone not being on board with that methodology (Borg cleaned-house after TD came in) and wanting something different. In the end, gotta do what's right for you.
sheriff bart
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I would bet the broadcast people weren't the only ones who last year got a non-refusable offer for a crappier kind of employment contract, and we did discuss then that people who are wanted elsewhere might want to look at the opportunities elsewhere once the economy picks up and people are hired again.
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Based on some of our other signings in the past, I would say zero. Hopefully they’ve learned from it and at least let him put his two cents in.
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A 16 year employee of the organization?
I have a family member who's done a bunch of outside promotional stuff with the Hurricanes in the past, none since the Dundon, who texted me a few days ago saying some for their front office PR folks are shopping resumes around. She's done work in the past scheduling and coordinating players for appearances at local events.
She also said she had heard that there is a group, including some former players, and a few local media types, who have gotten into Dundons inner circle and might be asserting some influence there. She claims there's probably going to be a bit FO turnover happening, nothing high profile but the behind bthe scenes types, said Dundon wants more positions filled with intern types, there's a deep, cheap pool of college age talent ripe for the picking. This text came 2 days before the Cole interview. I wasn't going to even mention it here because it's nothing that can be verified.
Navin R Slavin
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When someone shows you who they are, believe them.
Dundon has said that he cares about winning on the ice far more than anything off it. He moneyballed us out of Kaiton, and then Forslund (that was when I stopped the majority of my spending personally.) He will never stop moneyballing.
I worked for a time in a sports front office. None of it is rocket science. That doesn't mean there aren't people who are particularly good at it; there are. But they're not the product; they're the overhead.
We were all smart college kids that enjoyed the work and did it cheap and then moved on. It is what it is.
Dundon has said that he cares about winning on the ice far more than anything off it. He moneyballed us out of Kaiton, and then Forslund (that was when I stopped the majority of my spending personally.) He will never stop moneyballing.
I worked for a time in a sports front office. None of it is rocket science. That doesn't mean there aren't people who are particularly good at it; there are. But they're not the product; they're the overhead.
We were all smart college kids that enjoyed the work and did it cheap and then moved on. It is what it is.
tarheelhockey
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It’s also not terribly unusual for an office to go through cycles like this. It’s not necessarily anything nefarious or political.
They're award winning and good at their jobs so I could see lots of opportunities for the PR and promotions folks. We have some fancy companies moving this way that could probably utilize their community building expertise.
cptjeff
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Remember how we spent decades whining about the country club atmosphere? Well, now I guess we're pissed that it's not a country club atmosphere.
NotOpie
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I read this as needing to get used to the fight club atmosphere which of course....according to the rules we can't talk about.
Navin R Slavin
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Yup. Careful what you wish for.
Still, there is a middle ground. But you're not getting that middle ground from the subprime auto guy, looks like
Plus it's happening across the country in a lot of industries.
Roboturner913
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It also would not be at all unusual to want some fresh new minds with fresh ideas.
People who have been in jobs a long time tend to get comfortable in them and when that happens things get stagnant.
People who have been in jobs a long time tend to get comfortable in them and when that happens things get stagnant.
I’d agree with this if the Canes community outreach stuff was comfortable or stagnant. But it’s not. Look, that stuff is generally not on my radar for what I think should be “promoted” - but I’m a little bit of a dinosaur. Even I can read the tea leaves here … this is *most likely* about a combination of two or three things. The reported salary haircut they had to take; the rapid turnover of staff (from Kaiton to Forslund to a number of players); and the fan reaction to the TDA signing.
The slow realization that, no, the Canes are not owned by a guy who’s any different than all sports owners, when at least for a while they (and the fan base) thought they were.
And hey…that’s ok. For both the former employees AND Dundon.
tarheelhockey
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If anything, that is exactly the opposite conclusion that should be drawn from this situation. If the Canes ran like most organizations there would be no TDA contract, and anyone with more than 10 years of tenure here would be practically guaranteed the next 30.
Roboturner913
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I don't think we're seeing anything about Dundon right now that most people didn't already understand 2-3 years ago. And TBH if he is cutting costs, it's completely understandable in terms of lost revenue.
I'm just not entirely sure it is about cutting costs; as somebody else said, turnover at a workplace can be cyclical. You can be stable for 2-3 years and then suddenly have multiple resignations. We're going through that at my job right now. It's always the source of rumors, but I think more often than anything it's one or two people leaving that starts a chain reaction.
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