Do you really want to Habs to make the playoffs?
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The OP is regurgitating TSN 690 spew is what I'm getting at. It's just another tanking thread based on his reaction to Marinaro chatter.
Redux91
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Im indifferent,
if we make it, yay, always love a chance for a miracle run
if we dont, yay, draft pick
I have realized tho, that i love to watch playoff hockey regardless of if the habs are in them or not, in fact, if theres one thing i hate the most in the WORLD , is watching the habs in a playoff overtime, ****ing uselessly stressful, but THEN theres nothing i enjoy more in the world than watching a hockey playoff overtime game without the habs in it
i always wonder, ..could I, could WE, handle a stanley cup finals LOSS? lol and we all laughed at vancouver..........
if we make it, yay, always love a chance for a miracle run
if we dont, yay, draft pick
I have realized tho, that i love to watch playoff hockey regardless of if the habs are in them or not, in fact, if theres one thing i hate the most in the WORLD , is watching the habs in a playoff overtime, ****ing uselessly stressful, but THEN theres nothing i enjoy more in the world than watching a hockey playoff overtime game without the habs in it
i always wonder, ..could I, could WE, handle a stanley cup finals LOSS? lol and we all laughed at vancouver..........
If you are not a Stanley cup contender, there is absolutely no reason to lose good players for nothing. Markov, Diaz and Gionta must all either be re-sign before the trade deadline or be trade for good asset.
If Bergevin has no intention to re-sign Diaz and Gionta they should be trade at the trade deadline. They are not the difference between winning or not winning the Stanley Cup.
People should realize there is no award for losing in the first 3 round of the Playoff. The last time we tank we have got Galchenyuk, Thrower, De la Rose, Holland and Fucale. I found the tanking year more rewarding than the first round exit versus the Sens.
If Bergevin has no intention to re-sign Diaz and Gionta they should be trade at the trade deadline. They are not the difference between winning or not winning the Stanley Cup.
People should realize there is no award for losing in the first 3 round of the Playoff. The last time we tank we have got Galchenyuk, Thrower, De la Rose, Holland and Fucale. I found the tanking year more rewarding than the first round exit versus the Sens.
Redux91
I do Three bullets.
galchenyuk and thrower were from the tank year
the first round exit from the sens we got de la rose, and fucale
holland was in exchange for cammalleri
They are all tank move and trade. Thrower and De la Rose for Kostitsyn and Gill from Nashville picks and Bourque+prospect and pick for Cammaleri is a tanking move.
BigNumber1Centre
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I think having an entire team gain playoff experience, regardless of the results, is more beneficial than drafting a player high in the first round, unless said player is a franchise player.
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I'll go with yes with the caveat we extend or deal the UFAs at the TDL
Not a fan of tanking but also not a fan of seeing guys walk for nada
Not a fan of tanking but also not a fan of seeing guys walk for nada
You PLAY to WIN the GAME!
Our young guys need playoff experience and i honestly think we'd do well against Detroit or Boston in the playoffs.
Were a bubble team at the moment, but we have a great goalie and some solid players; if this team plays to its potential and gets hot, its very possible we could win a few rounds. If you actively don't want the habs to do well, gtfo of my fanbase.
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Our young guys need playoff experience and i honestly think we'd do well against Detroit or Boston in the playoffs.
Were a bubble team at the moment, but we have a great goalie and some solid players; if this team plays to its potential and gets hot, its very possible we could win a few rounds. If you actively don't want the habs to do well, gtfo of my fanbase.
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Exactly, the point is to win and not just make the playoff with no real chance to win the Stanley Cup. The main goal should be to build a Stanley cup contender and not only a playoff contender team.
Bergevin with a really crappy summer prevent the Habs to be a real Stanley cup contender this year. So Bergevin main goal should be building for the next years by trading Gionta and Diaz if he has no intention to retain them. If you are not good enough to win the war, you should take a step back and come back stronger with better assets.
CanadienShark
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If they're a bubble team, I'd rather do horribly, since I've got the Sharks to cheer for. If they're mid-high in the standings for playoff teams, **** yes!
DAChampion
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If you asked me this question four or five years ago I might have said yes. When you looked at our roster in 2008-09 it was clear that our core was made up of aging veterans and young players who didn't really have elite potential. At that time, while making the playoffs was still nice, and we played the bruins pretty tough, it was clear that the habs would have to go in a new direction if they wanted to be a long term and legitimate stanley cup contender. Instead they blew it up and re-tooled all over again to make another mediocre push at the postseason.
But now? I see absolutely no merit whatsoever in cheering for the short term failure of this franchise. Many of the players that will be integral to the long term success of the Habs are already on the NHL roster, and there is no doubt in my mind that the experience gained by winning now and playing meaningful postseason games is far more crucial to the long term success of the Habs than moving up a few spots in the draft.
It's not just that the Habs current core is young, which it is, its that there is some actual, bona fide elite talent at multiple positions. Guys like Subban, Galchenyuk, Price, Gallagher, Patcioretty and Eller all look like they could play meaningful roles on a stanley cup winning team in the future. To me, the progression of those players is far more important than drafting another prospect who may only be ready four years down the road.
Granted, i do not think that the Habs should be trading away young assets or picks at this stage, but i feel there are already enough prospects and young players in the system that the focus should be on developing what the Habs have. I think the best way to do that is to win, and win now. I also have faith in our scouting department's ability to find NHL talent even when not blessed with a top 5 pick.
I won't be upset if the Habs miss the playoffs this year as they are still very young and the team is still very much a work in progress, but I definitely want them playing important games come April, and think that it would be foolish to hope they miss the playoffs in order to improve their draft position by a few spots.
But now? I see absolutely no merit whatsoever in cheering for the short term failure of this franchise. Many of the players that will be integral to the long term success of the Habs are already on the NHL roster, and there is no doubt in my mind that the experience gained by winning now and playing meaningful postseason games is far more crucial to the long term success of the Habs than moving up a few spots in the draft.
It's not just that the Habs current core is young, which it is, its that there is some actual, bona fide elite talent at multiple positions. Guys like Subban, Galchenyuk, Price, Gallagher, Patcioretty and Eller all look like they could play meaningful roles on a stanley cup winning team in the future. To me, the progression of those players is far more important than drafting another prospect who may only be ready four years down the road.
Granted, i do not think that the Habs should be trading away young assets or picks at this stage, but i feel there are already enough prospects and young players in the system that the focus should be on developing what the Habs have. I think the best way to do that is to win, and win now. I also have faith in our scouting department's ability to find NHL talent even when not blessed with a top 5 pick.
I won't be upset if the Habs miss the playoffs this year as they are still very young and the team is still very much a work in progress, but I definitely want them playing important games come April, and think that it would be foolish to hope they miss the playoffs in order to improve their draft position by a few spots.
CanadienShark
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Mostly, I agree with you, but still, I'd give up a season for Bobby Ryan for sure!
This. It's not a tank job it's more a re-tool. I don't think we should trade this year guys like Plekanec, Bourque and Gorges but Bergevin should contemplate the idea of trading Gionta, Diaz and maybe Markov who are all UFA.
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CanadienShark
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We need some good photoshop artists to make our tank threads.
DAChampion
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No UFA should ever walk for nothing unless he us marginal or a deadline pickup.
