Dion Phaneuf. | Part ?? | "There is definitely interest" - Friedman

[Coach Parker]

Trying to catch up to this thread and the opinions of Phaneuf and his value.

Tell me, if Toronto retained 1.0 million of his cap hit would a trade around Seidenberg and a prospect (Spooner or Khokhlachev for example, NHL ready centermen) be of interest?

 

[MR4]

Trying to catch up to this thread and the opinions of Phaneuf and his value.

Tell me, if Toronto retained 1.0 million of his cap hit would a trade around Seidenberg and a prospect (Spooner or Khokhlachev for example, NHL ready centermen) be of interest?

We'd want high-potential prospects or 1sts, so no

 

[WillNyeTheHockeyGuy]

Trying to catch up to this thread and the opinions of Phaneuf and his value.

Tell me, if Toronto retained 1.0 million of his cap hit would a trade around Seidenberg and a prospect (Spooner or Khokhlachev for example, NHL ready centermen) be of interest?

Seidenberg is decent but we want to get younger, this team is tanking hard.

 

[saffronleaf]

The Leafs need Phaneuf back.

Before Phaneuf's injury the Leafs were above .500. After his injury we have not yet won a game.

 

[Riellyfan04]

no we don't.. we want to keep losing

 

[SprDaVE]

Bring back Carlyle too!

 

[garyjones93]

Yeah so they can trade him.

 

[TheLeafsBro]

We need Phaneuf back to ensure we won't break this losing streak. He has captained us through many epic collapses before. He's a veteran. It will be a new challenge for him to extend this losing streak but I believe in him. He is after all possibly the worst captain this franchise has ever seen. Who better to lead us in this time of need.

We can't afford to give our good defensemen like Morgan Rielly more ice time. It might give us a chance to win.

 

[TheLeastOfTheBunch]

Dion is -15 in his last 13 games played

Leafs went 2-11-0 in that stretch

 

[Pi]

We do need Phaneuf back. We should be allowing more than 20 shots per game...I'm starting to get worried about our shot differential here.

Phaneuf back guarantees 1:1 shooting at worst.

 

[Erdinger]

They need him back to say "It's unacceptable" after the losses

 

[cup67]

Before Phaneuf's injury the Leafs were above .500. After his injury we have not yet won a game.

so we could trade him

 

[A1LeafNation]

Phaneuf wasn't playing well before the injury, and Leafs weren't scoring either. I dropped him for Klingberg in my pool. Loving the move.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Are you serious? I can't tell who's serious and who's sarcastic anymore.

 

[Jacquestrapless]

Are you serious? I can't tell who's serious and who's sarcastic anymore.

You saw the game tonight right? The tank was under siege for the last 5 min. Need to call in reinforcements.

 

[yubbers]

Before Phaneuf's injury the Leafs were above .500. After his injury we have not yet won a game.

Hahahaha

Just when I think you guys can't reach any further...

 

[FerrisRox]

Phaneuf is a better dman than Kaberle. Just to put things into perspective, Kaberle fetched a 1st, an A prospect, and a 2nd round pick. It is reasonable to expect that Phaneuf would fetch more than what the Leafs got for Kaberle.

First of all, the notion that Phaneuf is better than Kaberle was when he was traded is your *opinion* it's not a fact.

But more important when discussing the value that Kaberle was able to return is the contract each player had. Phaneuf, with a seven year seven million per season contract becomes much much less desirable in terms of being an asset someone would like to acquire.

 

[paulhiggins]

First of all, the notion that Phaneuf is better than Kaberle was when he was traded is your *opinion* it's not a fact.

But more important when discussing the value that Kaberle was able to return is the contract each player had. Phaneuf, with a seven year seven million per season contract becomes much much less desirable in terms of being an asset someone would like to acquire.

The opinion that Phaneuf is better than Kaberle (when we traded him) is about as close to a fact as an opinion can get. I would actually call it an understatement.

The second part I agree with. IMHO it is about a year too long and about a million too much. I guess it's his captaincy bonus.

 

[Raging Bull]

First of all, the notion that Phaneuf is better than Kaberle was when he was traded is your *opinion* it's not a fact.

Nah, it's a fact.

 

[TheLeafsBro]

The point Ferris was trying to make was about the cap hit though. Doesn't matter it's a fact that Phaneuf is better than Kaberle when he was traded because he has a very undesirable contract which is also a fact.

So he's not necessarily more tradable than Kaberle was.

 

[ironhorse384]

If we can get a 2nd or 3rd round pick and maybe a prospect I'd be happy particularly if the other team was willing to eat his entire salary. For me, ditching that contract is way more important than the return because that gives the leafs the flexibility to sign a UFA who could be way better and it doesn't have to be now it could be a few years down the road. They need to get their cap under control because right now its a mess.

 

[Parkdale]

If we can get a 2nd or 3rd round pick and maybe a prospect I'd be happy particularly if the other team was willing to eat his entire salary. For me, ditching that contract is way more important than the return because that gives the leafs the flexibility to sign a UFA who could be way better and it doesn't have to be now it could be a few years down the road. They need to get their cap under control because right now its a mess.

My expectation is that if another team was willing to eat Phaneuf's entire salary, the return would be miniscule or nothing.

 

[Hunter74]

Phaneufs return will depend greatly on wether the other GM believes Phaneuf can regain his old form.

Best thing for Leafs would be for Phaneuf to come back get a couple goals and a big hit and hopefully a desperate GM bites hard. Of course we would need players to go to the net and back check so he could stand up at a blue line. So in other words it's not going to happen.

 

[Caesium]

I don't think the Leafs have missed Phaneuf at all since his injury. Rielly, for whatever reason, finally decided to take charge of the game. Maybe Phaneuf has been telling Rielly to hold back.

 

[diceman934]

Nah, it's a fact.

Only an opinion. ...Look at the stats...