Dineen: Jovanovski Named Captain
- Thread starter Mogo
- Start date
Dread Clawz
LAWSonic Boom
Dave Andreychuk, Guy Carboneau, and Bob Gainey were captains of Cup winning teams. Andreychuk was a 3rd liner when he won it, same with Carboneau and Gainey, they were defensive specialists. IIRC Barrett Jackman was at one time captain of the Blues a few years ago. He's hardly a stud defenseman. Also, the Devs just name Salvador captain, is he a great defenseman? Mike Eruzione was captain of the Miracle on Ice team, and he was the worst player on the team.
You don't have to make big plays all over the ice to be a good captain. It's about possessing the respect of your peers, being a hard worker, and being able to get your peers to listen to you when you want. Not everyone has the personality to be a good captain. Sometimes its the guy mucking in the corners and getting his hands dirty that's best suited for the job.
you mean the guy mucking in the corner, then left holding his jock?
i haven't been making any of the arguments you counter here against jovo. i know that different types of guys can be effective in the role. i do think it's a dicey proposition to say jovo is as effective a player as any of those specialists, even in their limited, late-career roles. i also would not hand over the "hard working" title to jovo, based on observations and inferences about his conditioning (as mentioned earlier).
all that said, the discussion is academic. it certainly is possible that dineen made a sub-optimal choice here. it wouldn't surprise me - i'm not a big fan of his (i don't dislike him, just am not a fan). in the end though, it'll probably be just fine.
FlaPnthrsPunk
Registered User
I was really hoping for Campbell or Weiss, but I'm happy for Jovo nevertheless.
I don't think caliber of play should have anything to do with the decision, but it is more of who gets the team motivated when the time is needed.
Jovo might be a good decision as he seems to be a vocal one in the locker room and has plenty of experience, but with him retiring in the near future, I don't see then why Campbell wasn't chosen. He seems to be a vocal one as well that is well-respected by the other players. Weiss doesn't seem to me as a vocal leader, but does on the ice when the time is needed most and is known more than anyone in the team's history for wanting to stay a Panther.
I really don't think this will affect Weiss's decision to stay in Florida much. I feel that he'll take a cut to sign with them if he had to. Otherwise, there will be a lot of upset fans if that happens looking back to this decision.
I don't think caliber of play should have anything to do with the decision, but it is more of who gets the team motivated when the time is needed.
Jovo might be a good decision as he seems to be a vocal one in the locker room and has plenty of experience, but with him retiring in the near future, I don't see then why Campbell wasn't chosen. He seems to be a vocal one as well that is well-respected by the other players. Weiss doesn't seem to me as a vocal leader, but does on the ice when the time is needed most and is known more than anyone in the team's history for wanting to stay a Panther.
I really don't think this will affect Weiss's decision to stay in Florida much. I feel that he'll take a cut to sign with them if he had to. Otherwise, there will be a lot of upset fans if that happens looking back to this decision.
I think players could really care less if their teammate gets picked for the All-star game. Really the game is a joke now, basically just a fancy exhibition game that doesn't give you the weekend off.
Jovo has been mentioned as a vocal leader in the dressing room before by teammates. He has been there, done that. If anyone on the team wonders about this decision, all Dineen needs to do is pop in a '96 cup run video and say, "listen to Jovo".
He has been through the wars and has a lot of wisdom to share with our young players coming up. Pretty much a player-coach.
MillarWithASave
#CatsAreComing
I'm not mad at the decision of Jovocop, he might suck and not be the best captain, but I think he deserves it after his long career, and probably won't hold the captaincy for very long anyways because he is probably going to retire within the next 2 years.
King Panther
ElGrandeDbagSupreme
Holy Jokinen
Registered User
Jovo becomes captain.
Season ends. Jovo retires.
Weiss re-signs.
Weiss or Campbell named captain.
Season ends. Jovo retires.
Weiss re-signs.
Weiss or Campbell named captain.
BeezKnees
Registered User
BeezKnees
Registered User
That doesn't sound good...
Dr Beinfest
Registered User
I'm only disappointed because this means there's absolutely no way Jovo is being traded :|
I'm sure he'll make a fine captain though, and it's some kind of justice that the Jovocop comes back to lead the team that drafted him and took him to the cup final as a youngster. I like it, even if I don't like Jovo's playing abilities.
I'm sure he'll make a fine captain though, and it's some kind of justice that the Jovocop comes back to lead the team that drafted him and took him to the cup final as a youngster. I like it, even if I don't like Jovo's playing abilities.
CatscratchFever
#CatsAreComing
adam graves
Panther 20 yr sth
CanadianPantherFan
Cats are Here!
adam graves
Panther 20 yr sth
TheImpatientPanther
Registered User
At first I read Panthers name captain, my reaction.
When I read it was Jovo.
Don't know to laugh or cry. The **** Dineen?
FUNNIEST THING IVE SEEN ALL DAY!!! I wasnt on board with Jovo being captain right off the bat but now that i review it, i'm thinking its a decent decision. If Weiss re-signs anything over 2-3 years, when Jovo retires, Weiss will most likely get the 'C'. Hopefully Steeger is able to go tomorrow. Those top two lines are potent especially if they all play their game right.
FOR THE WIN!!!! 
HockeyRulez
Panthers hockey since 1993
I've been saying it for the longest time... Panthers fans are just so hung on to the fact that he's been here for so long. But the fact of the matter is yes he has been here a while and i respect that but he isn't a great player and he isn't on the same level in terms of toughness and leadership like some of these guys that have been brought in....
This
you mean the guy mucking in the corner, then left holding his jock?
i haven't been making any of the arguments you counter here against jovo. i know that different types of guys can be effective in the role. i do think it's a dicey proposition to say jovo is as effective a player as any of those specialists, even in their limited, late-career roles. i also would not hand over the "hard working" title to jovo, based on observations and inferences about his conditioning (as mentioned earlier).
all that said, the discussion is academic. it certainly is possible that dineen made a sub-optimal choice here. it wouldn't surprise me - i'm not a big fan of his (i don't dislike him, just am not a fan). in the end though, it'll probably be just fine.
You're not a fan of whom?
HockeyRulez
Panthers hockey since 1993
dineen. he seems like a solid, upstanding guy. also seems easy-going. i don't dislike him, just am not a fan of him as a coach.
Doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever, but you're obviously open to your opinion. Will say I find it odd that you've defended some of the guys who've been through here and done nothing, yet you dislike a guy who took a half-new roster to the playoffs, which isn't easy, and did it on a team that has missed for over a decade.
angry_treefrog
void
- Jan 19, 2006
- 7,347
- 1
I stayed on the sidelines on this one, but I think this is the right choice.
1. If Weiss were prime captain material, he'd already have been captain.
2. Last year a player on the Panthers was asked about the 'C'. He made a cryptic comment that, to paraphrase, "everyone in that room knows who the leader is". Clearly, it's Jovo.
3. I'm going to trust Dineen on this one.
Weiss has been loyal to the organization because he loves the golf down here. He still loves the golf. I doubt he'll be offended by this decision and I doubt it affects whether or not he signs.
1. If Weiss were prime captain material, he'd already have been captain.
2. Last year a player on the Panthers was asked about the 'C'. He made a cryptic comment that, to paraphrase, "everyone in that room knows who the leader is". Clearly, it's Jovo.
3. I'm going to trust Dineen on this one.
Weiss has been loyal to the organization because he loves the golf down here. He still loves the golf. I doubt he'll be offended by this decision and I doubt it affects whether or not he signs.
