Confirmed with Link: Dillon Dube takes leave from Calgary Flames (TSN reports he's been asked to Surrender to London ON Police)

[super6646]

Sources confirm NHL players facing charges in sexual assault investigation | TSN

Four NHL players – Carter Hart, Michael McLeod, Dillon Dube, and Cal Foote – have been directed to surrender to police in London, Ont., to be charged with sexual assault in connection with an alleged incident that occurred during a Hockey Canada event in the city in June 2018, two sources...

www.tsn.ca

TSN just named Dube. If its true, kinda makes me sick how he went off on "mental health"

Agreed. Lots of bullshit all around. The PR release too. Garbage.

Kind of the point about "no speculation" really.

What we know is outlined in the release by the Calgary Flames, who clearly worded it very carefully.

We will know more on or before February 5.

Until there is something new to discuss, we really don't have any reason to continue here.

Going to have to give a no to the bolded. Pretty bad look for the organization here too.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Going to have to give a no to the bolded. Pretty bad look for the organization here too.

Two things can be true, even if the optics are complete trash. It is, however, exactly what we knew about the situation at the time.

Becky from PR has some work to do.

 

[Wisp]

Just want to chime in and say Flames trying to spin his absence as metal health is disgusting. Its horrendous and damaging for destigmatizing seeking help for mental health.

 

[super6646]

Two things can be true, even if the optics are complete trash. It is, however, exactly what we knew about the situation at the time.

Becky from PR has some work to do.

It could've absolutely been true that Dube was having a mental health crisis. Why disclose it specifically? Say he's on leave for personal reasons and no comment will be made. Now ppl are going to doubt whatever future PR comes out. Terrible.

 

[Mobiandi]

Bad look for the team in this story. Conroy should have done better having witnessed the fallout with Bill Peters

 

[crackdown44]

Awful look for the organization from top to bottom. People will rightfully expect answers and honestly there are none that can be given to justify approaching it in the way they did

 

[InfinityIggy]

Said it in the main thread. If Dube claimed it was a mental health issue the Flames are obliged to report as such. If Dube lied that is on him, not the Flames.

Now, if they “colluded” with the player to give him cover that’s another issue.

Bashing the org for listening to their player is just nonsense though.

 

[crackdown44]

Said it in the main thread. If Dube claimed it was a mental health issue the Flames are obliged to report as such. If Dube lied that is on him, not the Flames.

Now, if they “colluded” with the player to give him cover that’s another issue.

Bashing the org for listening to their player is just nonsense though.

I think it’s probably safe to assume that the team knew about the investigation. There’s a reason Formenton wasn’t signed, he’s 100% an NHL caliber player

Also I like to imagine that they’d have done their due diligence if he came to them asking for a mental health leave, especially knowing that he was potentially involved in this investigation

 

[Mobiandi]

I don’t buy that the organization was blindsided by this news. Someone messed up here and should resign

 

[Rpenny]

Two things can be true, even if the optics are complete trash. It is, however, exactly what we knew about the situation at the time.

Becky from PR has some work to do.

here is the question that has been asked on multiple boards for a few days now since the first player got named. How many people in the hockey world knew about this? No team was going to touch that sens guy and that is one reason we knew he was involved. So questioning what the flames knew is just the start--clearly NHL teams had the list for awhile

 

[joescores]

Do we know if the earnings in situations when proven guilty should be returned from the time when the crime happened?

 

[DomBarr]

Said it in the main thread. If Dube claimed it was a mental health issue the Flames are obliged to report as such. If Dube lied that is on him, not the Flames.

Now, if they “colluded” with the player to give him cover that’s another issue.

Bashing the org for listening to their player is just nonsense though.

No I completely disagree, they are not obligated to report it as such they were obligated to report that he requested a leave they didn’t have to disclose a cause. especially as they most likely had a good idea what might be going on. They sh*t the bed in this and it is a bad look, period

 

[crackdown44]

I suppose this is something worth consideration. If that’s truly the case the team needs to come out with a firm statement that they were lied to and mislead

I am too stupid to imbed on mobile pls help

 

[InfinityIggy]

No I completely disagree, they are not obligated to report it as such they were obligated to report that he requested a leave they didn’t have to disclose a cause. especially as they most likely had a good idea what might be going on. They sh*t the bed in this and it is a bad look, period

Obliged vs. Obligated.

 

[DomBarr]

Obliged vs. Obligated.

Fair I misread but they were not obliged to report it as such either.

 

[super6646]

I don’t buy that the organization was blindsided by this news. Someone messed up here and should resign

There were two posters in Calgarypuck who said they had forewarned knowledge. One of them posted blatantly this was going down before even hart took his leave, but the post was deleted by the mods at the time.

 

[Some Other Flame]

That Dube would lie about all of it means nothing; it just speaks further to his character. That no one on the Flames had the ability to see through it, or the willingness to do so however speaks volumes. It's embarrassing for the organization and ruins all the goodwill they built with the Kylington situation.

The idea that they had to parrot Dube's spineless messaging is absurd. They could have just said he was on leave for a personal issue, like they did with Kylington.

Honestly, it's the kind of tone deaf response that only John Bean could have come up with. Coincidently, his son was on that same 2018 WJC team alongside Dube.

 

[crazyfisherman]

I suppose this is something worth consideration. If that’s truly the case the team needs to come out with a firm statement that they were lied to and mislead

I am too stupid to imbed on mobile pls help

If the players are not telling the teams whats going on they how are we gonna blame the flames on this. I doubt the flames were told of the time lines of police investigation and that those 5 players were gonna be charged soon. Dube was the first to do it, when it first happened no one on here suspected it was team canada related. If dube say its a mental health issue then you cant fault the team for saying it as is. The players on the team sure af didnt know it was for anything beyond mental health, or else why would andersson come out and say mental health issue is a big deal and stop bullying players on twitter.

 

[Some Other Flame]

If your average fan on the internet can put 2 and 2 together, there's no reason to think that Flames organization couldn't do the same.

It's like when they tried to lie about not knowing that Monahan was playing injured - 'but he told us he was fine'. Meanwhile he was playing like absolute crap, getting corticosteroid shots before every game, and Gaudreau (or someone else) would say how he was struggling to even walk. So while every fan with 2 brain cells to rub together figured it out, somehow the Flames, with all the inside information, didn't. Yeah, sure okay.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

The idea that they had to parrot Dube's spineless messaging is absurd. They could have just said he was on leave for a personal issue, like they did with Kylington.

If he shows up at work with a "doctor's note" recommending time off (which would be the equivalent for plebs like you and I) the team pretty much has no choice but to take him at his word and let him have time off. The tweet / podcast / whatever from Serivalli also points to a leak from the team, who are going on what they were told.

As Super pointed out earlier, no need for the team to provide any details about his reason for leave request. Just f***ing say "personal matter and no further comment at this time".

 

[InfinityIggy]

If your average fan on the internet can put 2 and 2 together, there's no reason to think that Flames organization couldn't do the same.

Doesn't actually matter.

Dube: "I need to leave, I am having a mental health crises."

Flames: "Nah I don't believe you."

Can't see that going well. Whether individuals in the org had doubts (and frankly we can't actually know that unless they say so), the only course of action remains the same.

 

[Mobiandi]

Coincidently, his son was on that same 2018 WJC team alongside Dube.

Ah ok so there goes any shred of plausible deniability for the Flames

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Honestly, it's the kind of tone deaf response that only John Bean could have come up with. Coincidently, his son was on that same 2018 WJC team alongside Dube.

It doesn't rain, it pours.

 

[DFF]

If the players are not telling the teams whats going on they how are we gonna blame the flames on this. I doubt the flames were told of the time lines of police investigation and that those 5 players were gonna be charged soon. Dube was the first to do it, when it first happened no one on here suspected it was team canada related. If dube say its a mental health issue then you cant fault the team for saying it as is. The players on the team sure af didnt know it was for anything beyond mental health, or else why would andersson come out and say mental health issue is a big deal and stop bullying players on twitter.

With all due respect, everyone has been suspecting this for years. Not saying that the Flames could have done something but they sure were suspecting.

 

[crazyfisherman]

With all due respect, everyone has been suspecting this for years. Not saying that the Flames could have done something but they sure were suspecting.

If your argument is that we shouldve let Dube go the when the incident first come to light last year then whats a different story. Formenton just happend to be a FA and sens decided to let em go, Dube was alr signed at that point. This is a completely different matter. Flames as the employer isnt getting up to date info from the police about the investigation where they knew the charges are being laid next week, all they heard was prob dube stating its a mental health issue (players seem to think thats the issue) and reported as such. Theres no benefit to hiding SA charges thats coming to light in a week as mental health from the flames perspective, literally non.