Pre-Game Talk: Devils (M2) vs Rangers (M3), Round 1, 2023 NHL Playoffs.

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  • Rangers in 4

    Votes: 11 5.1%
  • Rangers in 5

    Votes: 6 2.8%
  • Rangers in 6

    Votes: 12 5.6%
  • Rangers in 7

    Votes: 5 2.3%
  • Devils in 4

    Votes: 9 4.2%
  • Devils in 5

    Votes: 38 17.6%
  • Devils in 6

    Votes: 117 54.2%
  • Devils in 7

    Votes: 18 8.3%

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glenwo2

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The team trailing in these low event games tends to look terrible and the team leading tends to look great defensively. In the first two games, the Devils could barely get through the neutral zone without icing the puck and they looked awful, while the Rangers looked like defensive stalwarts. Everyone immediately said that the Devils style wouldn't work in the playoffs.

Then the Devils win a couple tight games, and now the narrative is that we learned how to lock things down in the neutral zone and gained "playoff experience."

The reality is that, primarily as a result of the Rangers strategy, this has turned into a slog and very low event hockey. The team that is trailing late in a game is generally going to look like they can't get anything going.
This cautious take is not the most popular on HF, but I mostly agree with your post.

I do think the Devils are playing better, but the bipolar overconfidence / despair of both fanbases never ceases to amaze me. After game 2, the Rags fans were proclaiming they would go all the way to the ECF; now their board wants Gallant's head and to blow it all up. We over here were too cocky (imo) leading up to game 1, rightfully despondent after game 2; but are now a wee bit too overconfident again.

Game 5 could go either way imo. I'm nervously, cautiously optimistic heh.
 

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Players play.

Fans cheer.

It's not rocket science, Kobe. :rolleyes:
I kind of get the “it’s not over yet” sentiment because it’s not, but there’s a difference between being happy with what the team has done in the last 2 games (which is completely legitimate given the adjustments and taking 2 in their home with them having all the momentum) and saying the series is over and we’re for sure winning this.

I haven’t seen anyone claiming we’re 100% winning.
 

glenwo2

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This cautious take is not the most popular on HF, but I mostly agree with your post.

I do think the Devils are playing better, but the bipolar overconfidence / despair of both fanbases never ceases to amaze me. After game 2, the Rags fans were proclaiming they would go all the way to the ECF; now their board wants Gallant's head and to blow it all up. We over here were too cocky (imo) leading up to game 1, rightfully despondent after game 2; but are now a wee bit too overconfident again.

Game 5 could go either way imo. I'm nervously, cautiously optimistic heh.
What I don't like about what you and Caller are saying is that fans aren't allowed to feel a certain way.

If a fan for example wants to feel doom and gloom while another is optimistic (or cocky or overconfident), then let them be.

One shouldn't stand on a soapbox and Preach how they should root for their team, you know? :dunno:


I'm not sitting here, for example, telling you NOT to be cautiously optimistic, am I?


Just let us (and this message is moreso for @Unknown Caller ) root for the team however we like, "bi-polar" or not.
 

glenwo2

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I kind of get the “it’s not over yet” sentiment because it’s not, but there’s a difference between being happy with what the team has done in the last 2 games (which is completely legitimate given the adjustments and taking 2 in their home with them having all the momentum) and saying the series is over and we’re for sure winning this.

I haven’t seen anyone claiming we’re 100% winning.
I read just NOW from a few in this thread that whomever wins this game, wins the series.

And while that's not LITERALLY correct, it does put the winning team in a very favorable "driver's seat" to wrap things up and move on.

So in essence, it's kind of true.
 

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I read just NOW from a few in this thread that whomever wins this game, wins the series.

And while that's not LITERALLY correct, it does put the winning team in a very favorable "driver's seat" to wrap things up and move on.

So in essence, it's kind of true.
Many on this board said the series was done when we went 0-2, yet we’re now tied.

It’s not unheard of for teams down 3-2 to win in 7. For example, we did it in our last big run, against the Panthers.

Point is, it’s not over until it’s over. Imo games 3 and 4 were much more “must win” games than tonight’s game. Doesn’t mean it wouldn’t make it a lot harder tonight if we lost, but yeah, this team has shown a lot of resiliency.

I have a lot of faith in them and I believe they can get it done. Whatever happens to be honest, I’m proud of them. Superb season really and a great step forward.
 

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Many on this board said the series was done when we went 0-2, yet we’re now tied.

It’s not unheard of for teams down 3-2 to win in 7. For example, we did it in our last big run, against the Panthers.

Point is, it’s not over until it’s over. Imo games 3 and 4 were much more “must win” games than tonight’s game. Doesn’t mean it wouldn’t make it a lot harder tonight if we lost, but yeah, this team has shown a lot of resiliency.

I have a lot of faith in them and I believe they can get it done. Whatever happens to be honest, I’m proud of them. Superb season really and a great step forward.
Oh no question on all of that.

But like you said, it will be a LOT harder if they lost.

Giving the Rags 2 shots to clinch with their propensity of having a horseshoe-up-their-ass goal to win it is something I do NOT want to happen.

That's why beating them tonight is so important.

That means we have a margin for error so that if they DO get that Lucky-as-fk goal in Game 6, they would've used up their "luck" for Game 7.


But first things first : WIN TONIGHT.

Don't care how.

Just do it.
 

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Oh no question on all of that.

But like you said, it will be a LOT harder if they lost.

Giving the Rags 2 shots to clinch with their propensity of having a horseshoe-up-their-ass goal to win it is something I do NOT want to happen.

That's why beating them tonight is so important.

That means we have a margin for error so that if they DO get that Lucky-as-fk goal in Game 6, they would've used up their "luck" for Game 7.


But first things first : WIN TONIGHT.

Don't care how.

Just do it.
This is how I feel. I feel good about our chances of winning because of how we played the last two games and have limited the Rangers offence. We have momentum and home Ice BUT with how close the score has been , I can also see us outplaying them but they get a lucky bounce and win by a goal. Us winning tonight would obviously be a huge advantage and would crush the Rangers confidence . On the other side , Rangers win swings momentum back to them and we head to the crap hole MSG for a must win game
Win tonight and put all the pressure on the Rags.
 
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I kind of get the “it’s not over yet” sentiment because it’s not, but there’s a difference between being happy with what the team has done in the last 2 games (which is completely legitimate given the adjustments and taking 2 in their home with them having all the momentum) and saying the series is over and we’re for sure winning this.

I haven’t seen anyone claiming we’re 100% winning.
It was a comment responding to how much Jerry Recco (a Devils fan) must be loving life on the Boomer and Gio show right now because Boomer’s a Rangers fan.

My point was that the Devils haven’t won anything yet, no logical fan is “loving life” just because you tied a series. It's normal to enjoy wins along the way and be hopeful, but no fan who's lived through playoff runs is lapping up Rangers fans tears just because we won a couple of nail biters.
 

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It was a comment responding to how much Jerry Recco (a Devils fan) must be loving life on the Boomer and Gio show right now because Boomer’s a Rangers fan.

My point was that the Devils haven’t won anything yet, no logical fan is “loving life” just because you tied a series. It's normal to enjoy wins along the way and be hopeful, but no fan who's lived through playoff runs is lapping up Rangers fans tears just because we won a couple of nail biters.
I also share this, because of course the series isn't over, I agree there.

I'm happy with the W's though, and more than just because we won. The way we won was impressive too I thought. The team adjusted extremely well and took 2 games from the Rangers when they had all the momentum. I never thought our young team would adjust this much defensively when facing adversity.

To me, this was a big step forward for the group. But of course, the work isn't done. Definitely happy with the W's and what this young group has shown, but there's a lot of work to be done.
 

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lol i know ppl hate spittin chiclets on here, but man do i love Pasha for being such a homer
Yea I watched the one where they all bet against the Devils before game 4 and then the one right after to see how pissed they all were. I tried looking up the Pasha guy, but as much as I actually like the chiclets, they are absolutely horrible at realizing not everyone knows these people they bring up and talk to/about as much as they do, and never shout them out in a way people can check them out.

Does he only post on instagram and twitter? Or does he have youtube. He seems like a diehard I'd want to watch every once in a while.
 
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Yea I watched the one where they all bet against the Devils before game 4 and then the one right after to see how pissed they all were. I tried looking up the Pasha guy, but as much as I actually like the chiclets, they are absolutely horrible at realizing not everyone knows these people they bring up and talk to/about as much as they do, and never shout them out in a way people can check them out.

Does he only post on instagram and twitter? Or does he have youtube. He seems like a diehard I'd want to watch every once in a while.
he's def a diehard but you'll only see him show up their pod i'm pretty sure (maybe commenting on their posts). he's been adamant about NJ in 6 since the start lol


 
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