Post-Game Talk: Devils drop another one in shootout to Tampa -Blowing leads is our specialty edition.

[glenwo2]

We blew a lead to a great offense on the road. It happens. It sucks, but we got a point out of it.

A "great Offense" that was made "greater" because Volch/Harrold basically gift-wrapped TWO GOALS for the Bolts.



This should've been a 4-2 Devils victory if we had COMPETENT D-Men that DIDN'T QUIT SKATING in their own zone!!

 

[Oroku Saki*]

Volch and Harrold were a mess. Tallinder and Larsson tonight please.

 

[ryangib]

Henrik Tallinder is not the answer.

 

[glenwo2]

neither is Volch and Harrold.

At least Tally would give us another option. Who knows? Maybe Tally plays out of his mind and raises his trade value?

 

[Oroku Saki*]

Henrik Tallinder is not the answer.

He can move the puck quick and he's a great skater. Why couldn't we use that over slow Volch who is only good at battering people around in the corners. He's been playing decently for a stretch but he needs a night off. Harrold was just lost.

 

[NJDevs26]

Tallinder was playing well before he got a lower-body injury playing soccer. He's a bit star-crossed though, every time he plays well he gets hurt, and when he doesn't it's while the team on the whole is sucking.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

You can't keep blowi.g leads and giving away points and expect to get in the playoffs.

A real must win tonight.

Need stellar Marty tonight.

I'm waiting to hear Moose starts.

 

[NJDevs26]

I'm waiting to hear Moose starts.

TG wrote and Chere tweeted Marty was playing tonight. Which I'm fine with after seeing how rusty Marty's been the last couple starts. Might as well let him play it out for a while till he gets his rhythm back.

 

[apice3*]

a win tonight will calm all of you down. If i told you earlier this week that we'd take 3/4 on the florida road trip, youd all be satisfied. Then again, this is the devils board where even 4 point in 2 games isnt satisfying.

Just win tonight

 

[The Great Dame]

I've hated Harrold since he started playing for us, he's awful at defense and just shoots the puck whenever wherever. And Fayne...my god I've never liked him...he's just bad. Should NOT be playing, especially over Larsson!

 

[Devils Trap]

I've hated Harrold since he started playing for us, he's awful at defense and just shoots the puck whenever wherever. And Fayne...my god I've never liked him...he's just bad. Should NOT be playing, especially over Larsson!

Funny guy. Fayne is one of our best defensemen. I would only put Greene over him

 

[CerebralGenesis]

Wait people are ok with blowing 2 2-goal leads and sitting back in the final 5 minutes with Gionta on the ice to preserve it?

Have to win tonight. getting 2/4 or less against both florida teams is awful for a team in 7th and just ahead of 9th.

 

[Traitor Zach]

a win tonight will calm all of you down. If i told you earlier this week that we'd take 3/4 on the florida road trip, youd all be satisfied. Then again, this is the devils board where even 4 point in 2 games isnt satisfying.

Just win tonight

This team cannot continue to leave points out there on the ice especially against bad hockey teams. Someone might want to make them aware how awful they have been in protecting 3rd period leads and how many times they continue to lose in OT or the SO. What's most alarming of this is how awful they look in these situations. Lackadaiscal, way too nonchalant, whatever. As fans we look beyond just the box score and the way the Devils have been unable to seal the deal is more than just frustrating, it's becoming rather frightening.

If we lose to Florida (a team that has been decimated by injury even more than we have), this will come back to hurt us the last week of the season and it's very suggestive of a team that really is very mediocre.

 

[Devils Trap]

Wait people are ok with blowing 2 2-goal leads and sitting back in the final 5 minutes with Gionta on the ice to preserve it?

Have to win tonight. getting 2/4 or less against both florida teams is awful for a team in 7th and just ahead of 9th.

Agree. Since we blew the extra point yesterday the Islanders game is a must win now

 

[AfroThunder396]

I'm done with Harrold. He's one of the worst ES players I've ever seen play professional hockey. The fact that he gets more points than the rest of our defense doesn't prove anything, I know guys in my roller league that handle the puck better than some of our defensemen. And I'm pretty sure my buddies are better defensively than Harrold is, too.

Volch isn't good, but he'd be at least competent if he had a better partner.

 

[CerebralGenesis]

I wanted at least 4/6 points this next 3 games. However we get there is fine which means they need to win 1 of the next 2 and get to OT for the other. Ideally win 2 but what can you do with this team?

Harrold should definitely be sitting too.

 

[Saugus]

First loss of this season after which I'm genuinely pissed off. We could've had the 2 points if we'd have shown somewhat of a defensive effort. Pathetic.

2 points tomorrow or bust. **** this.

Ya, I was upset by the blown leads too. We are the Devils, this **** should never happen. What happened to the vaunted defence? What happened to "once the Devils go up by one, it's over"? Very frustrating to lose that mystique.

Volch and Harrold were a mess. Tallinder and Larsson tonight please.

Agreed. Volch needs to sit for a while, and Harrold is useless except for the PP.

i agree with nothing you said. other than it was a horrible loss. there is no such thing as a loss that changes an nhl season.

There is, but I don't think this was one of them.

 

[The Great Dame]

Funny guy. Fayne is one of our best defensemen. I would only put Greene over him

I'm sure that's why DeBoer scratched him...Mark Fayne, one of our best defensemen

Seriously, do you actually watch Fayne? Or do you just listen to the people on here who think he's actually good?

Tell me, what is Fayne good at?

And you only putting Greene over him isn't very impressive considering our whole D-corps is pretty bad. Zidlicky, however, is much more important to the team than Mark ****ing Fayne (same with Larsson). For gods sakes I don't think I've ever seen him beat anyone to a loose puck, usually its his partner saving his ass by getting to the puck that he should be getting. (IE last night when he was with Greene)

But I'm sure you're just much smarter than Peter DeBoer

 

[Saugus]

I'm sure that's why DeBoer scratched him...Mark Fayne, one of our best defensemen

Seriously, do you actually watch Fayne? Or do you just listen to the people on here who think he's actually good?

Tell me, what is Fayne good at?

And you only putting Greene over him isn't very impressive considering our whole D-corps is pretty bad. Zidlicky, however, is much more important to the team than Mark ****ing Fayne. For gods sakes I don't think I've ever seen him beat anyone to a loose puck, usually its his partner saving his ass by getting to the puck that he should be getting.

But I'm sure you're just much smarter than Peter DeBoer

Yes, we do watch Fayne. He doesn't excel at anything, but he is solid in all aspects of the game. He isn't particularly physical, but his positioning is excellent and his board work is good for a guy his size. He won't go coast to coast, but he is good on the breakout. He's not an assist machine, but he has a low, tippable shot, and good passing vision.

I'm really not sure what there is to complain about with Fayne. He's a solid positional defenceman who can eat minutes. I never thought I'd see the day when any Devils fans would trash a guy like that. If nothing else, we should always be able to recognise good defence when we see it.

Every player has off days. And with two capable defencemen waiting in the press box every night, a couple off days in a row can earn you a seat. It's not that DeBoer thinks Fayne is horrible.

 

[NJDevs26]

Except that Fayne 'has' been awful since DeBoer started scratching him on a routine basis. Thankfully for him he wasn't nearly as bad as Conechenkov last night. But this yo-yo **** ain't helping him.

 

[The Great Dame]

Yes, we do watch Fayne. He doesn't excel at anything, but he is solid in all aspects of the game. He isn't particularly physical, but his positioning is excellent and his board work is good for a guy his size. He won't go coast to coast, but he is good on the breakout. He's not an assist machine, but he has a low, tippable shot, and good passing vision.

I'm really not sure what there is to complain about with Fayne. He's a solid positional defenceman who can eat minutes. I never thought I'd see the day when any Devils fans would trash a guy like that. If nothing else, we should always be able to recognise good defence when we see it.

Every player has off days. And with two capable defencemen waiting in the press box every night, a couple off days in a row can earn you a seat. It's not that DeBoer thinks Fayne is horrible.

Just because he's on the Devils doesn't mean I don't have the right to trash him! He brings nothing to the table IMO, and it's very telling of the quality of our D that he gets playing time. And in my opinion his positioning is very questionable, and how often have you ever seen that "low, tippable shot" ever go in?

 

[AfroThunder396]

I'm sure that's why DeBoer scratched him...Mark Fayne, one of our best defensemen

Seriously, do you actually watch Fayne? Or do you just listen to the people on here who think he's actually good?

Tell me, what is Fayne good at?

And you only putting Greene over him isn't very impressive considering our whole D-corps is pretty bad. Zidlicky, however, is much more important to the team than Mark ****ing Fayne. For gods sakes I don't think I've ever seen him beat anyone to a loose puck, usually its his partner saving his ass by getting to the puck that he should be getting.

But I'm sure you're just much smarter than Peter DeBoer

Since you asked....

Mark Fayne is a mobile defenseman with a long reach that's able to quickly take away both passing and shooting lanes in the defensive zone. He's able to close off people on the wall much better than any of our other defenseman due to his large frame and ability to skate well backwards. He's very good positionally and is quick to close off gaps.

He has a good enough stride to stay with our forwards in transition and is excellent at keeping the puck in at the blue line. He makes excellent decisions about when to pinch and when not to pinch. When he has the puck, he has enough common sense to take a few step before shooting, and unlike our other defenseman he doesn't mindlessly drill the puck into diving opponents. His shot selections are well placed - middle of the net and off to the side, which is prime placement for deflections.

He plays huge minutes at even strength, is a fixture on the PK, and is a right handed shot. He's a very good athlete for a man his size. Despite being a defensive defenseman, he gets modest yet consistent point production. He's sure minded and makes the smart play, rarely panicking, and knows how to anticipate the play before it happens.

That's not even taking age and contract into consideration.

Ever since his unjustified scratching he's clearly become hesitant, knowing full well that any minor imperfection could lead to him riding the pine again and it's clearly effecting his game. Getting shuffled around with different defensive partners every night isn't helping either. He was scratched as part of the regular defensive rotation, and since we happened to actually play respectable hockey in the middle of our **** stretch, he decided to keep the lineup the same.

Mark Fayne is an excellent defenseman.

 

[Uli Hiemer]

Wait people are ok with blowing 2 2-goal leads and sitting back in the final 5 minutes with Gionta on the ice to preserve it?

Have to win tonight. getting 2/4 or less against both florida teams is awful for a team in 7th and just ahead of 9th.

I couldn't have said it better.

 

[The Great Dame]

Since you asked....

Mark Fayne is a mobile defenseman with a long reach that's able to quickly take away both passing and shooting lanes in the defensive zone. He's able to close off people on the wall much better than any of our other defenseman due to his large frame and ability to skate well backwards. He's very good positionally and is quick to close off gaps.

He has a good enough stride to stay with our forwards in transition and is excellent at keeping the puck in at the blue line. He makes excellent decisions about when to pinch and when not to pinch. When he has the puck, he has enough common sense to take a few step before shooting, and unlike our other defenseman he doesn't mindlessly drill the puck into diving opponents. His shot selections are well placed - middle of the net and off to the side, which is prime placement for deflections.

He plays huge minutes at even strength, is a fixture on the PK, and is a right handed shot. He's a very good athlete for a man his size. Despite being a defensive defenseman, he gets modest yet consistent point production. He's sure minded and makes the smart play, rarely panicking, and knows how to anticipate the play before it happens.

That's not even taking age and contract into consideration.

Ever since his unjustified scratching he's clearly become hesitant, knowing full well that any minor imperfection could lead to him riding the pine again and it's clearly effecting his game. Getting shuffled around with different defensive partners every night isn't helping either. He was scratched as part of the regular defensive rotation, and since we happened to actually play respectable hockey in the middle of our **** stretch, he decided to keep the lineup the same.

Mark Fayne is an excellent defenseman.

To the bolded:

Really? I often see Fayne out of position in the defensive zone.

When have you seen Mark Fayne join the rush?

Fayne rarely pinches.

I don't think one of Mark Faynes "deflectable" shots has ever gone in this year.

Look at our defensemen! It's no secret why he plays a lot!

Can you tell me who DOESN'T get modest point production on the Devils blue-line? (Besides Sal, who has also been unimpressive.

Mark Fayne does not always make the smart play and I've seen him panic with the puck. (Especially last night)

My opinion, Mark Fayne is not excellent, and a mediocre, bottom-pairing defensemen.

 

[njdevilsftw]

To the bolded:

Really? I often see Fayne out of position in the defensive zone.

When have you seen Mark Fayne join the rush?

Fayne rarely pinches.

I don't think one of Mark Faynes "deflectable" shots has ever gone in this year.

Look at our defensemen! It's no secret why he plays a lot!

Can you tell me who DOESN'T get modest point production on the Devils blue-line? (Besides Sal, who has also been unimpressive.

Mark Fayne does not always make the smart play and I've seen him panic with the puck. (Especially last night)

My opinion, Mark Fayne is not excellent, and a mediocre, bottom-pairing defensemen.

Dang man. Did Fayne steal your dog or something thats a lot of hate. . Everyone knows he won't be a top pairing damn but he is who we have on our roster so unless you have a bug in Lou's ear take a min and relax. Or if it helps I hear Jay Leach has a couple of goals