Post-Game Talk: Devils and caps 7:00

[Revelation]

Ward was a freaking animal and a PO monster to boot

Keep Ward, add Oshie and Williams and they'd have been unbeatable

 

[peterthegreat12]

I'll sum this team up right now: bad.

 

[artilector]

Hard not to get excited about Winnik getting another goal, and the team earning a point against the storied Devils franchise.
Just have to manage the puck a bit better and trust the system...

 

[txpd]

Winnik tied for 6th on the team in goals scored after being scratched 10 games. That says a lot right there.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Hard not to get excited about Winnik getting another goal, and the team earning a point against the storied Devils franchise.
Just have to manage the puck a bit better and trust the system...

How many have you had tonight?



More Grant Paulson. Channel change time.

 

[g00n]

Winnik tied for 6th on the team in goals scored after being scratched 10 games. That says a lot right there.

scratch everyone?

 

[Hivemind]

For a larger view of Holtby's shootout performance, look here. He's slightly above the middle of the pack:
https://tifubyjoiningreddit.wordpre...and-worst-active-goaltenders-in-the-shootout/

The shootout also isn't indicative of the many things that factor into the larger picture of goaltending (reading plays, rebound control, fighting through screens, etc).

 

[g00n]

We'd better trade Holtby before his shootout problems hurt us in the playoffs.

 

[troyerlaw]

Winnik tied for 6th on the team in goals scored after being scratched 10 games. That says a lot right there.

'Tied for 6th on the team' doesn't say much to me about anything.

But the offense has certainly flatlined. That's for sure.

 

[txpd]

The word of the day. Tedious

 

[txpd]

'Tied for 6th on the team' doesn't say much to me about anything.

But the offense has certainly flatlined. That's for sure.

Says that he has more goals than Kuzy and Burt and Carlson and Orlov and Eller and Sanford and doesn't get to play. You can look at the lack of scoring from those guys and others and the team's problem is right there.

Says a lot of about the attitude of Winnik too

 

[troyerlaw]

Could be a dogfight just to make the playoffs

 

[peterthegreat12]

Could be a dogfight just to make the playoffs

One might even say they might not make the playoffs. Hockey is strange.

 

[AtNightWeFly]

Could be a dogfight just to make the playoffs

Even if they make the playoffs, with the way they're playing they would lose in 5 games in Round 1.

How's the Hershey coach? I hear they're winning a lot of games.

 

[troyerlaw]

Says that he has more goals than Kuzy and Burt and Carlson and Orlov and Eller and Sanford and doesn't get to play. You can look at the lack of scoring from those guys and others and the team's problem is right there.

Yes, but the question is why? Why has the offense dried up so dramatically? Why has PP gone from one of best in league to mediocre?

Did GMBM make the wrong moves in offseason? Are players tuning out Trotz? Were the strategy changes we appear to have made -- e.g. less hitting - the wrong changes? Is there lingering psychological effect from being Pres Trophy flame-outs last year?

Yes, our offense is anemic. Question is why? Is it all just the individual struggles and flaws of the players you mentioned above?

I hate to say it, but I don't think it will turn around under Trotz. I think we'll tread water and pick up enough points to stay in the hunt. But an aggressive owner and GM would start thinking seriously about a coaching change.

 

[Revelation]

Who would support firing Trotz/hiring Gallant in the middle of the season? It could result in the same bump the pens got both times they won the cup, or it could sink the team to a lottery pick.

 

[troyerlaw]

Who would support firing Trotz/hiring Gallant in the middle of the season? It could result in the same bump the pens got both times they won the cup, or it could sink the team to a lottery pick.

I'd promote the hershey guy. Troy Mann.

I dont think trotz gets us to the promised land, and it feels like window is closing. Why wait till offseason?

 

[itsjustsurvival]

Team is broken 5v5. Painful to watch.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Ted doesn't really fire coaches in season, but the one time he did was Hanlon for BB and that worked out great. If Ted fired Oates after it was clear the team quit on him rather then trading for Erat things could be a lot different here.

 

[peterthegreat12]

Not saying they should or shouldn't...but no way they fire Trotz.

 

[Bladerunner]

Yes, but the question is why? Why has the offense dried up so dramatically? Why has PP gone from one of best in league to mediocre?

Did GMBM make the wrong moves in offseason? Are players tuning out Trotz? Were the strategy changes we appear to have made -- e.g. less hitting - the wrong changes? Is there lingering effect from being Pres Trophy postseason flame-outs last year?

Yes, our offense is anemic. Question is why? Is it all just the individual struggles and flaws of the players you mentioned above?

I hate to say it, but I don't think it will turn around under Trotz. I think we'll tread water and pick up enough points to stay in the hunt. But an aggressive owner and GM would start thinking seriously about a coaching change.

You covered many bases. I think bold is a major factor.

Up to this point I've been supportive of Trotz and non critical. I'm beginning to wonder now. Although all the other factors may weigh more than Trotz re their offensive funk

 

[hb12xchamps]

I'd promote the hershey guy. Troy Mann.

I dont think trotz gets us to the promised land, and it feels like window is closing. Why wait till offseason?

Please don't take Mann from us!

In all seriousness though Mann will eventually land an NHL gig whether it's a head coach or assistant role.

If Trotz is fired I wouls probably see them going to Reirden first since he's the associate head coach now

 

[itsjustsurvival]

I think having some better passers on the back end would really help this team even strength. Top four D needs work. I'm not saying the players the caps have aren't good, just the mix just seems off.

 

[Hivemind]

Ted doesn't really fire coaches in season, but the one time he did was Hanlon for BB and that worked out great. If Ted fired Oates after it was clear the team quit on him rather then trading for Erat things could be a lot different here.

BB was also fired in-season.

 

[aonb]

15 of 34 games they've scored 2 or fewer goals. Yikes