Devils 2021 offseason (news, notes and speculation) - part VII

[Devils Trap]

Imagine we come out with Dougie and Gabe somehow.

Ill get season tickets Thursday

 

[Lou is God]

I don't think the handedness thing is overblown at all. Unless a guy has played both sides consistently, you can't just peg a righty to play LD or vice versa

It is overblown, the 2016 Pens won too with one righthander, I'm not saying it's something that wouldn't help a team but it doesn't make sense to trade a top defensemen for a lower tier one just because he's not a righty and the lower tier is, I'd rather go with the more talented and better defenseman.

 

[Guadana]

No such thing as “too many puck movers” either. Ideally all of your D are puck movers.

If we look in the closest past at the teams with success like tampa, islanders, montreal and dallas(local success), even pens and blues - ideally all of your D are good D.

 

[Lou is God]

Besides, Luke apparently is playing on the right side as we speak, so it's almost a moot point.

 

[HersheyBob27]

No such thing as “too many puck movers” either. Ideally all of your D are puck movers.

Except for the fact that puck movers tend to be smaller less physical players. You can’t win a playoff series with 6 samuel girards

 

[Nubmer6]

lol what? You understood perfectly what I meant.

Sorry. Couldn't resist

 

[nugg]

all I will say is that if we miss on Dougie, please do not panic and throw money at Tyson Barrie

Lou's not the GM anymore.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Imagine we come out with Dougie and Gabe somehow.

Ill get season tickets Thursday

I’d pass on Landeskog, someone like Schwartz would better imo but I haven’t seen us linked to him.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Except for the fact that puck movers tend to be smaller less physical players. You can’t win a playoff series with 6 samuel girards

Do you even watch the rest of the league like, at all?

Because that is just totally not true

 

[Lou is God]

Lou's not the GM anymore.

I do remember after Scotty bolted for the Ducks he right away threw money at Malakhov, it was a disaster.

 

[Classic Devil]

I do remember after Scotty bolted for the Ducks he right away threw money at Malakhov, it was a disaster.

And McGillis and Rachunek if I recall correctly.

 

[Lou is God]

And McGillis and Rachunek if I recall correctly.

Yes on McGillis but I think the other defenseman was Richard Matvichuk.

 

[Classic Devil]

Yes on McGillis but I think the other defenseman was Richard Matvichuk.

Oh right. Yes. How could I forget Matvichuk.

 

[RangerDoggo]

Except for the fact that puck movers tend to be smaller less physical players. You can’t win a playoff series with 6 samuel girards

The reason Oleksiak turned heads and why he was such a good get for the Kraken was because he has size and puck moving ability.

 

[devilsblood]

No such thing as “too many puck movers” either. Ideally all of your D are puck movers.

If we look in the closest past at the teams with success like tampa, islanders, montreal and dallas(local success), even pens and blues - ideally all of your D are good D.

Ideally all your D are HOF level guys who can do both.

But we know that is not realistic. Hamilton may be realistic and he can both move the puck and play D, and that is why everyone agrees he would be a great fit.

Now if we had to choose between an offensive oriented puck mover, and a defensive oriented guy for that bottom pair rhd, I'm going D oriented. Sev's and Subban can both move the puck, but neither are defensive lockdown defenders. Neither were able to stabilize the penalty kill either. So that's what I'm looking at.

 

[Hisch13r]

Do you even watch the rest of the league like, at all?

Because that is just totally not true

Or even just the Devils either. I mean there's the Bastian>Bratt stuff lol

 

[Figgie]

Imagine we come out with Dougie and Gabe somehow.

Ill get season tickets Thursday

Me too! But first you have to marry me so I can come to Jersey!

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

well yeah when you have multiple Hall of Famers on D, you can make up for some things....

It's also a completely different game now.

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

My point still stands.

uh, not really. Unless your point is we'll have multiple hof d-men in the future guaranteed.

 

[Guadana]

Ok, gentlemen, I dont think that building a winning team with two sofies playmakers(Luke and Ty) and Severson(we dont have any option, even if we add Hamilton) in top-4 is a working idea. I can be wrong here, but this is how I see today winning hockey teams works. Would be great If Smith(somehow) and Luke will play solid defensive game.
But we have zibillion left defensemen and two lef playmakers to split their time.
If we wanna add some young solid right defenseman, we should trade something really valuable. But this is how I see our situation. I can and hope I will be wrong and we will be solid. Magically.

 

[ScottyK]

For those with the athletic.

I think we can possibly add a top-six (forward),” Fitzgerald said. “We added a top-four defenseman. If I could add another quality defenseman, I think that would be very helpful. I think it will improve our team. I wish I didn’t have to fill that 1B role (in net). I was hoping Corey Crawford would be here for a second year. I want to fill that so we have a tandem on the ice that we feel comfortable with.”

 

[Lou is God]

uh, not really. Unless your point is we'll have multiple hof d-men in the future guaranteed.

Where does it say this only works with multiple hall of famers?

 

[Hisch13r]

It's also a completely different game now.

The 2017 Pens had 1 regular righty in Schultz who played 21 of the 25 games during their run and then another who in Ruhwedel who played 6 games of the 25. Reminder this was also the year without Letang

 

[Lou is God]

The 2017 Pens had 1 regular righty in Schultz who played 21 of the 25 games during their run and then another who played in Ruhwedel who played 6 games of the 25. Reminder this was also the year without Letang

And no Hall of Famers on that blueline.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Ok, gentlemen, I dont think that building a winning team with two sofies playmakers(Luke and Ty) and Severson(we dont have any option, even if we add Hamilton) in top-4 is a working idea. I can be wrong here, but this is how I see today winning hockey teams works. Would be great If Smith(somehow) and Luke will play solid defensive game.
But we have zibillion left defensemen and two lef playmakers to split their time.
If we wanna add some young solid right defenseman, we should trade something really valuable. But this is how I see our situation. I can and hope I will be wrong and we will be solid. Magically.

Luke can play the right side, as he is doing today in the USNTDP showcase game. Ty also played RD in juniors. And like I said, Luke and Ty are two completely different players.

I agree we need to add a RD, but if they sign Hamilton, this will greatly alleviate that problem.