Devils 2020-21 team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part V

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

Neal for Schneider make sense for you guys?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Neal for Schneider make sense for you guys?

nah not really...Neal is signed for one year longer than Schneider

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Blackwood got a 3rd place Vezina vote so that's neat

Edit maybe not?

 

[Forge]

Neal for Schneider make sense for you guys?

Not really. We don't have to dunno Cory, and if we did, there are better dumps to take back. Loui and boychuk are both guys I would prefer

 

[Devils731]

Blackwood got a 3rd place Vezina vote so that's neat

Jets' Connor Hellebuyck wins 2020 Vezina Trophy as NHL's top goalie

Did he? I saw people say that but didn’t find evidence when I went to look it up.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Jets' Connor Hellebuyck wins 2020 Vezina Trophy as NHL's top goalie

Did he? I saw people say that but didn’t find evidence when I went to look it up.

Huh maybe not? Sorry I thought I saw that he did

 

[My3Sons]

Huh maybe not? Sorry I thought I saw that he did

He apparently got some Calder votes

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Neal for Schneider make sense for you guys?

You’d be paying a premium for that extra year. You guys are pretty thin on picks over the next few years, so it would probably have to be a prospect.

 

[tailfins]

You’d be paying a premium for that extra year. You guys are pretty thin on picks over the next few years, so it would probably have to be a prospect.

Unless the Oilers do something dumb, I just don't see it. At this point, no one has any idea of what the cap will look like 3 years from now. If it stays flat-ish, Neal's contract is a way bigger problem then vs now.

IMO, the Devils should be looking at taking on short-term cap dumps and building assets from that. Neal doesn't work.

 

[Forge]

IMO, the Devils should be looking at taking on short-term cap dumps and building assets from that. Neal doesn't work.

If the internal cap is real, I'd rather just give up assets for quality players who are priced out of their current teams, tbh. The only type of cap dumps I want are fluff ones - higher cap hits with minimal salary that don't really impact the internal budget. Someone like Kris Russell, for example. 4 million cap, but only 1.5 on the real dollars. A move like that doesn't really impact the real dollar spending so we could add that on for a small asset and basically still spend to our internal budget if applicable. If the internal cap it 75, we basically have 6.5 in cap fluff we could use up too

 

[Nubmer6]

If the internal cap is real, I'd rather just give up assets for quality players who are priced out of their current teams, tbh. The only type of cap dumps I want are fluff ones - higher cap hits with minimal salary that don't really impact the internal budget. Someone like Kris Russell, for example. 4 million cap, but only 1.5 on the real dollars. A move like that doesn't really impact the real dollar spending so we could add that on for a small asset and basically still spend to our internal budget if applicable. If the internal cap it 75, we basically have 6.5 in cap fluff we could use up too

I'm not sure how much that internal cap affects us. Didn't we spent nowhere near that last year?

I think maybe it's better to not blow our entire wad in one off-season anyway. Keep some powder dry for next year's where there may be more (or at least different) options (presuming we don't have an internal cap next year).

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Where was it reported that we have an internal budget? The owners are rich as hell. Why put the couple million dollar squeeze on the team?

 

[Forge]

I'm not sure how much that internal cap affects us. Didn't we spent nowhere near that last year?

If we are spending less than the cap, then yes, it affects us and its something we have to keep in mind when building the team. Is it any different from prior years? No, but I'm pretty sure we were in an even better situation cap wise last year. We went to like 75 last year and added Goose's cap hit, 9 million from Subban, and Simmonds. That's actually far more than we could add this year in cap if we are sticking to the same 75M and don't dump some of these deals.

Dead weight contracts for assets could constitute a third to half of our available cap space if those are the type of deals that we make. I'm trying to get better immediately and in the future. So give me the quality young guys who are priced out, even if it means that I have to give up a real asset to get them.

 

[Forge]

Where was it reported that we have an internal budget? The owners are rich as hell. Why put the couple million dollar squeeze on the team?

Todd Cordell says he's heard it's 75M. Makes sense. I think most of the teams will be on an internal budget of real cash.

 

[MichaelJ]

If Toronto is really going all in on Pietrangelo, what contract do we want to take off their hands?

 

[ScottyK]

Eklund is just purposing trolling at this point lol

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

If Toronto is really going all in on Pietrangelo, what contract do we want to take off their hands?

I would take Dermott and/or Johnsson for cheap

I would also take Nylander but I don't really want to pay what they would want for him

 

[Forge]

If Toronto is really going all in on Pietrangelo, what contract do we want to take off their hands?

Depends on how they want to do it. The moves I see most Toronto fans talk about is dumping Johnsson / Kerfoot and Andersen...but while that does cover Pie, it also leaves them without a goalie, so I don't know how that works.

Honestly, I don't get how it doesn't involve Nylander getting shipped out. The team is better with Pie over Nylander, and while it's not quite 1 for 1 in terms of salary, its the easiest way to get around the money and doesn't completely disrupt their depth to boot. Are they really going to trade off Kap / Johnsson / Kerfoot? They'd have a bottom six of almost entirely ELC type guys and Jason Spezza. And no goalie.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Eklund is just purposing trolling at this point lol

He has always done this. He literally built a career on it.

 

[OmNomNom]

f*** james neal

Doesn't want to be near us since we have no fans right

 

[ScottyK]

He has always done this. He literally built a career on it.

yea no shit lol

 

[ChicksDigTheTrap]

I'm not sure how much that internal cap affects us. Didn't we spent nowhere near that last year?

I think maybe it's better to not blow our entire wad in one off-season anyway. Keep some powder dry for next year's where there may be more (or at least different) options (presuming we don't have an internal cap next year).

Devils played about $5 mil under the cap last November. Basically the internal cap Cordell reports is what we opened the season at last year.

 

[The Rochester Rocket]

Pens fans would trade Hornqvist for Wood. I think he'd be a good fit on the right side of Hughes, but NJ would probably be one of the teams on his 8 team NTC.

 

[tailfins]

If the internal cap is real, I'd rather just give up assets for quality players who are priced out of their current teams, tbh. The only type of cap dumps I want are fluff ones - higher cap hits with minimal salary that don't really impact the internal budget. Someone like Kris Russell, for example. 4 million cap, but only 1.5 on the real dollars. A move like that doesn't really impact the real dollar spending so we could add that on for a small asset and basically still spend to our internal budget if applicable. If the internal cap it 75, we basically have 6.5 in cap fluff we could use up too

Agree.

I think I misstated my post. I’m not really for cap dumps at this point. I think the Devils should try to improve the team immediately, and not just look to acquire future assets. But, if we’re talking about cap dumps, then they need to be short term.

 

[Darkauron]

Why would we trade Wood for someone on the wrong side of 30? Unless picks and prospects were coming back with Hornqvist, that deal would make 0 sense.