Devils 2019-20 team discussion (news and notes) - part V

[KovalchukFistPump]

This is getting ridiculous, you have no clue what you are talking about...

Go to Hoboken or Jersey City and you will see the guys out after games all the time. I also went to 3 of the last 5 Devils games in Nashville and saw many guys out on the strip at noted bars where hockey players normally go to after games. These guys have lives man.

Yes but not after he gives up an almost game-costing mistake. Have some timing at least.

 

[MadDevil]

Because nobody in any other walk of life goes out after a shitty day at work...

 

[glenwo2]

I think people would have traded McLeod for two firsts the minute he was drafted, but that's another kettle of fish

Bratt saved that draft for the Devils, imo.

McLeod can still be a solid player but man...it is taking him quite a bit of time to develop.

 

[glenwo2]

Because nobody in any other walk of life goes out after a ****ty day at work...

Not even for a beer to unwind?

tongue-in-cheek, meet tongue-in-cheek.

Yes but not after he gives up an almost game-costing mistake. Have some timing at least.

Sorry but PK doesn't adjust his schedule to accommodate you.

He adjusts it for himself.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I just don't really think his social media activity has any bearing on his on ice performance. Thats all.

Honestly I want to see some actual proof of this if people are going to continue to bitch about it.

Show some stats.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Honestly I think folks IG stalking a player is a much bigger and weirder issue.

 

[Triumph]

I simply keep coming back to the fact that Shero had 5 years to accumulate assets, won the draft lottery twice and this is what we have to show for it. It currently seems inexcusable.

That's just it. He only had 5 years to accumulate assets. Lou left him an additional 2nd, 3rd, and 3rd from dealing Jagr and Zidlicky, but cost him a 3rd from the Ruutu trade, and the Devils were short a 5th and 7th in 2015 when Shero took over - that was from the D'Agostini trade and the Anthony Brodeur trade. The Devils did not trade any UFA-to-be player that Lou left over for an asset - they got a 3rd for Gelinas, they got a 5th for Wedgewood, they got Smith-Pelly for Matteau, they got Hayden for Quenneville. Shero has not picked twice in the first round since he took over.

The biggest organizational need by far is goaltender - the Devils have drafted one every year since Shero took over, but they have not been successful picks. Between 2011 and 2014, the Devils drafted a favor to Martin Brodeur, who is presently the backup goalie at the University of Ottawa. Nothing Lou did in his final years makes me more upset than that pick, even though 7th round picks are very unlikely to become anything, the idea that you can be drafting lower and with fewer picks than other teams every year and have the arrogance to basically throw a pick away to assuage a franchise legend.

If anything, Shero tried to rebuild too quickly. He had one elite player when he took over in Schneider and acquired another one in Hall. Other than that, it takes a long time to build up from nothing. Binghamton and New Jersey should both be better this season, there's no question, but neither team should really be good. The organization needs at least 2 goaltenders.

 

[Emperoreddy]

What is the list of UFA goalies to replace Cory?

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

What is the list of UFA goalies to replace Cory?

Looks like Holtby, Crawford, Lehner, Markstrom, Khudobin, Greiss and some others are all UFA.

 

[njdevils1982]

What is the list of UFA goalies to replace Cory?

at this rate to replace cory….hmm…….you could get either Bleed @Bleedred or myself….we both don the pads but im older and still use horse hair style pads….. so….

 

[Based Anime Fan]

What is the list of UFA goalies to replace Cory?

Bad

 

[glenwo2]

Looks like Holtby, Crawford, Lehner, Markstrom, Khudobin, Greiss and some others are all UFA.

@Bleedred seems to like Lehner so I'll go with him, too.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Looks like Holtby, Crawford, Lehner, Markstrom, Khudobin, Greiss and some others are all UFA.

Assuming Greiss doesn’t resign he is playing real well, though I don’t trust him to repeat that.

Lehner I guess makes the most sense that wouldn’t cost an arm and a leg. I don’t like the idea of paying through the nose for Holtby

 

[Lindys Lazy Eye]

Lehner/Blackwood sounds sweet.

Now what UFA defense is out gonna be out there? Lol

 

[Forge]

Lehner/Blackwood sounds sweet.

Now what UFA defense is out gonna be out there? Lol

Pietrangelo lol

Barrie. Krug I think. Brodie. Muzzin. Scandella.

 

[Lindys Lazy Eye]

Pietrangelo lol

Barrie. Krug I think. Brodie. Muzzin. Scandella.

Barrie - Subban
Vatanen - Severson
Smith - Butcher

Good news, our depth at LHD is solved. Bad news, if Subban doesn't bounce back we are f***ed yet again.

Assuming we can't re-sign Vatanen then trade Wood and Mueller to the Sabres for McCabe.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Barrie - Subban
Vatanen - Severson
Smith - Butcher

Good news, our depth at LHD is solved. Bad news, if Subban doesn't bounce back we are ****ed yet again.

Assuming we can't re-sign Vatanen then trade Wood and Mueller to the Sabres for McCabe.

The Vats on the left experiment has to end. A big issue with this D this year is our need to play someone of their off side for heavy minutes (usually it’s Subban’s partner)

It’s very very clearly not working.

 

[Ripshot 43]

Honestly I think folks IG stalking a player is a much bigger and weirder issue.

It reminds me of the classic... I hate Howard Stern (or insert other radio host here), so let me listen to his show every day so I can “hate listen” and complain about what he’s doing (while supporting him and giving him ratings).

 

[haak84]

I think some posters on this board misunderstand the concept of social media.

 

[Camille the Eel]

The Vats on the left experiment has to end. A big issue with this D this year is our need to play someone of their off side for heavy minutes (usually it’s Subban’s partner)

It’s very very clearly not working.

Sevs has worked the best. Go back to it. He was making great outlet passes up the middle, wheeling offensively into the middle on his off wing side and getting good looks and also hitting people hard on the D end. Sevs looked like a different player for a spell. It freed up Subban to be Subban. I have no idea why we don’t go back to it.

 

[MadDevil]

Barrie - Subban
Vatanen - Severson
Smith - Butcher

Good news, our depth at LHD is solved. Bad news, if Subban doesn't bounce back we are ****ed yet again.

Assuming we can't re-sign Vatanen then trade Wood and Mueller to the Sabres for McCabe.

Um...Barrie is a RHD. A top 4 of all RHD doesn't really "solve" our depth at LHD.

 

[MichaelJ]

Lehner/Blackwood sounds sweet.

Now what UFA defense is out gonna be out there? Lol

Edmundson

 

[BahlDeep]

I don't want Barrie, we got too many of those unless we get rid of Butch

 

[Lindys Lazy Eye]

Um...Barrie is a RHD. A top 4 of all RHD doesn't really "solve" our depth at LHD.

Capfriendly had him listed as a LHD.

 

[Alex NJD]

Pietrangelo will resign with the Blues barring anything crazy happening over in St. Louis. Muzzin would be my top target. Lehner or Khudobin don't sound bad as partners for Blackwood.