Post-Game Talk: Detroit 5, Toronto 2. EVERYONE CALM THE **** DOWN!

[Rare Jewel]

5v5 I thought we did well actually. Contained the puck, And had more than few good cycles and created some good chances

Ashton needs work on the PK to say the least if he's going to be on it.

Bernier: Not a banner night. I'm a big believer in him, But unless Reimer has a disaster tomorrow night, He's the starter on Tuesday night.


Few notes on defense.

Fraser can be waived/moved IMO. MacWilliam out played him in that role so I wouldn't be using him in the top 6.

We're force feeding Ranger at this point to play any more than 15 minutes a night. I like him, But it looks like it will be gradual process with him.

Franson was real good tonight despite his absence from camp.


All in all not a great result, But hopefully we get them tomorrow.

 

[leafstilldeath*]

Bobby Ryan sent a text to Jake...

"been there, done that"

Randy just seems to take a dislike to some players

Grabo seconded that text

 

[Future]

I will be done if Carlyle runs Jake out. I swear to God I'll be done. What in God's name is this!?!? This has to be a joke. Please tell me this is a joke. Our coach literally cannot be this brain dead stupid. Right?

 

[7even]

I sort of understand what Carlyle is talking about. Gardiner does a lot of good things, but there's also a lot of times I'm wondering what the hell he is doing. Don't know how many times I've seen him down low this preseason for no good reason. He's good enough on his skates to get back, but it seems to me he is trying too hard instead of just letting the game come to him.

With that said, his overall impact is still good enough for a top 4 position in our defense. The time running out comment makes it sound like he could be sent down.

That will be the biggest joke since I don't even know.

 

[TheLeastOfTheBunch]

Jake would have to go through waivers. I think he means he will be a healthy scratch.. which is ridiculous.

 

[TootooTrain]

Detroit may be old but man can they dish the puck around still. Respect (except for Alfi)

 

[Auzzie19]

So, does this look right for Tuesday opener....

JVR-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-Raymond
Broll-Bolland-Kulemin
Ashton-Mcclement-Orr

Gunnarson-Phaneuf
Franson-Gardiner
Ranger-Fraser

I'd prefer:

JVR-Bozak-Kessel (don't like Bozak in the middle, but Carlyle is just as stubborn as Wilson.)
Lupul-Kadri-Raymond (the 1B line)
Colborne-Bolland-Kulemin (need some depth offence from this line, I still have a little faith in Joe and he would give more creativity to this line than Broll.)
Ashton-Mcclement-Orr (same)

Gunnarson-Phaneuf
Franson-Gardiner
Ranger-Rielly (more mobility, Rielly brings the fluid transition to offence where Fraser just whips it off the boards as soon as he touches it)

Riemer
Bernier

 

[Ari91]

To all those sahying its only pre-season. Did you see Detroit play? They were certainly not playing like its pre-season. Did you not see the structure Detroit was playing with? Leafs play the smurfs Oct. 1st and I don't see any urgency especially from the team that lost the game 7 the way they did.

Its NOT acceptable.

Also, enough with...

-Bozak on 1 PP unit, its bad enough he centers Kessel and JVR
-Lets just stop giving late period goals
-Defensive positioning has to be good avg ain't gonna cut it

Bag skate these ****ers if they don't put it together Oct. 1st

How often do you watch hockey? Even the best teams have games like that IN regular season, let alone preseason. The season isn't a sprint, it's a marathon. Games like that likely going to happen and most if not all the teams will experience games like that. One game isn't going to define how good a team is. It's a larger collection of performances that will make that determination.

 

[KPower]

Jake has to go through waivers. I think he means he will be a healthy scratch.. which is ridiculous.

He's just trying to light a fire.

Jake needs to pull his head out of his ass though, he's not Paul Coffey.

 

[4evaBlue]

hes not waiver eligible yet?

Yes.

 

[LMFAO]

How was Colton tonight ?

 

[Nithoniniel]

That will be the biggest joke since I don't even know.

Hopefully it would be just a short while so he can dominate the AHL and come back up at the top of his game.

That is unless Carlyle is conveying a message, and nothing else.

Edit: Thought Gardiner was not waiver eligible, that makes the whole point moot. Just Carlyle telling Gardiner to not run around as much.

 

[4evaBlue]

Reimer's reaction

Especially considering how many of the Wings vets may be taking a day off tomorrow. No doubt.

 

[Ari91]

No way Gardiner gets sent down since he'll have to pass through waivers...won't he?

Maybe people are just reading too much into Carlyle's comments. Maybe time running out is in reference to the regular season starting soon so he doesn't have much time left to find that Gardiner we saw in the playoffs.

 

[Remuskokafication]

On a scale of Aubin to Roy I'm one and a half belfours more confident in Reimer than Bernier.

 

[MiniMoose]

Grabo seconded that text

Lupul also seconds that text

 

[Daisy Jane]

How often do you watch hockey? Even the best teams have games like that IN regular season, let alone preseason. The season isn't a sprint, it's a marathon. Games like that likely going to happen and most if not all the teams will experience games like that. One game isn't going to define how good a team is. It's a larger collection of performances that will make that determination.

forget that, some teams do it during the POST season.
(see, Penguins vs. Bruins, 2013).

re: Jake - i'm not sweating it.

 

[Future]

Wtf does Gardiner have to do? He's like our leading scorer and has been out best player. He has made mistakes but still. He's been great. Holy crap I can't believe this.

 

[4evaBlue]

No way Gardiner gets sent down since he'll have to pass through waivers...won't he?

Maybe people are just reading too much into Carlyle's comments. Maybe time running out is in reference to the regular season starting soon so he doesn't have much time left to find that Gardiner we saw in the playoffs.

Absolute worst case, he starts the season in the presser. Still find that somewhat unlikely, but he'll probably sit tomorrow night in favor of Reilly.

 

[false bobo]

Wtf does Gardiner have to do? He's like our leading scorer and has been out best player. He has made mistakes but still. He's been great. Holy crap I can't believe this.

Deep breaths

 

[4evaBlue]

How was Colton tonight ?

Played 10 more mins than he should have.

 

[Future]

Deep breaths

How can I be calm when our coach is an absolute moron? I'm in disbelief here. And I can't believe we built a team around this moron's judgement.

 

[Auzzie19]

Bobby Ryan sent a text to Jake...

"been there, done that"

Randy just seems to take a dislike to some players

Both American's?

But then there's Cam Fowler in Anaheim who he liked, so

 

[BIitz]

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 1m

Carlyle says Gardiner isn't up to standard he played at in the playoffs. Adds he's running out of time to get there.

Couldn't agree more, especially with how overrated he is around here.

 

[leafstilldeath*]

How often do you watch hockey? Even the best teams have games like that IN regular season, let alone preseason. The season isn't a sprint, it's a marathon. Games like that likely going to happen and most if not all the teams will experience games like that. One game isn't going to define how good a team is. It's a larger collection of performances that will make that determination.

True. But quite frankly I still see the same mental mistakes. Progression implies correction.
If there are new mistakes fine, but same mistakes that is stupidity.

Example:

Dion Phaneuf - on PP has the puck but doesn't move his feet, clock ticks by the time he moves he either takes a bad shot or hurries up the pass.

Bozak experiment on the no. 1 PP, enough!

If we have to lose, then why not make new mistakes may be they will turn out to be something that benefits team and not really mistakes. Carlyle is trying the same thing over and over again.

Btw, a reply suggesting that it worked last time as we made playoffs. We made playoffs because of the following 3:

Kessel beasting
Kadri Beasting

Reimer SUPER beasting

If these three didn't play the way they did we would not have made the playoffs last season.