Nice backpedaling.. You also called him an offensive d man? ... but I’m sure that was just misinterpreted, too.
Dermott Vs Carlo
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CantLoseWithMatthews
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usually the "how is this even a poll" comments are reserved for landslide wins, not when your guy is losing.
I wouldnt trade 1 dermott for carlo by the way, and it looks like 57% of people wouldnt either.
to say carlo is 2-3x what dermott is is beyond silly.
Dermott>Carlo. no doubt
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It wasn't back peddling. It was admitting a mistake/and pointing out a mistake in my wording. Chill out.Nice backpedaling.. You also called him an offensive d man? ... but I’m sure that was just misinterpreted, too.
And what do you think he is? Shutdown defense. Not from what I've seen
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Carlo got overrated from last season. He's a decent young D who I think will round out as a decent 3/4, but I don't see anything beyond that. Dermott has more upside and I see him as a good #2, or even a 1B in certain situations. Dermott is also a possession driver while Carlo is not.
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Nice backpedaling.. You also called him an offensive d man? ... but I’m sure that was just misinterpreted, too.
shhh. he has a whopping 0g/5a this year. thats offensive enough. has never had more than 27pt in a season including juniors lol. Nice to see all the folks blasting the leafs for not taking Carlo with that dermott pick quiet as a mouse!
yup comparing a top 4 d on the top defensive team in the league (Boston/Carlo) to a 7th D (on an average defensive Team TOR/Dermott)
# LeafLogic
Carlo look pretty great shutting down Gaudreau last night
# LeafLogic
Carlo look pretty great shutting down Gaudreau last night
There's this misconception that Carlo is automatically a bad skater because he's 6"5 when in fact it's the opposite.
Carlo's skating IS one of his best assets. (extremely rare for a player over 6"3)
but there are some who confuse agility(ex: Krug) with speed (ex: Carlo, McAvoy)
Carlo's skating IS one of his best assets. (extremely rare for a player over 6"3)
but there are some who confuse agility(ex: Krug) with speed (ex: Carlo, McAvoy)
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Will require an extra year to make a proper comparison.
Carlo was more impressive last year, playing 20+ min a game and being great defensively for his age. But seems to be having a stereotypical sophomore year.
While Dermott is averaging 16:30 min a game and has only played 18 games so far. So who knows, he might cool down/struggle with more responsibility or excel. Too early to tell. At this point however I'm gonna give Carlo the benefit of the doubt and go with him untill Dermott proves otherwise.
Carlo was more impressive last year, playing 20+ min a game and being great defensively for his age. But seems to be having a stereotypical sophomore year.
While Dermott is averaging 16:30 min a game and has only played 18 games so far. So who knows, he might cool down/struggle with more responsibility or excel. Too early to tell. At this point however I'm gonna give Carlo the benefit of the doubt and go with him untill Dermott proves otherwise.
He was easily one of their 6 best this year but waivers, age, and the LH/RH thing had him in the AHL to start.
.... so he went down and was the best d man in the league, forcing a call up.
The Leafs are quite content to over ripen their prospects now that they’ve stocked the pipeline.
You should do some research on the all star and even Norris calibre d men who began their pro career in the minors. You must be new to the game, but it’s far from uncommon.
my comment was more geared towards the Leaf poster who said the exact same thing about Carlo(i forgot to quote him).
FYI i have been watching the NHL casually since the mid 90's and religiously since 2000-2001 season... i know how it works.
What Carlo has been able to do as an 18yrs old (1st pairing minutes, 1st pk unit, shut down role in his 1st season) is phenomenal and extremely rare.
Carlo is already a solidified top 4 D while Dermott "may" only end up being a 3rd pairing D (he has proven nothing yet 18 games is not enough).
the Bruins are also extremely deep in D prospects.
but the Leaf posters claiming "easily" Dermott is ridiculous
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Dermott is #5 right now. If he shot right he'd be on the 2nd pairing and possibly the 1st.
Carlo's a number 3/4 on a deeper Bruins D, he'll most likely be paired with McAvoy once Chara retires
He's also on the 1st PK unit and used at the end of the game to protect a lead
Someone said they can’t comment on Carlo because he’s barely played in the NHL?
The sample size is always a funny argument, especially when you read some of what was written about Charlie McAvoy after 1 playoff series.
Sometimes, you just know.
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Carlo and it's not even close. Dermott has a long road ahead before he even enters the same realm as Carlo.
yes i agree sometimes "you just know"
Carlo is an extremely rare type of D, a Defense first 6"5 player who skates extremely well that can handle 1st pairing minutes as a rookie.
I "ignored" the poster who said something about Carlo but my reply was aimed towards his stupid comment(forgot to quote, but it's on the first page if you want to bother looking)
Dermott is somewhat more comparable to Matt Grzelcyk(Bruins #5). although Grzelcyk is smaller and a 3 years older they have had "similar" path's this season.
most if not all HF'er have probably not heard of Grzelcyk because he's a Bruin player.
good point it will most likely be URHO VAAKANAINEN(sorry for caps i copy/pasted), Jakub Zboril, Linus Arnesson, Ryan Lindgren or "maybe" Rob O'Gara as potential partners for McAvoy
edit: the last 2-3 years the Bruins have concentrated their drafting towards D (somewhat over drafted imo), but it was their weakest prospect pool at the time. They also got lucky with Carlo and Grzelcyk as no one expected them to become good full time NHL players last/this year.
Honestly they're more likely to trade one or two D prospects away. Hopefully they won't trade a future star (fingers crossed)
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Wow, the Bruins are lucky to have so many future top pair d to choose from.
Dermott is 6th on the Leafs in ice time for D. One is being sheltered and one is succeeding as an important piece for 2 years now.
Seems like an easy choice at this point.
Seems like an easy choice at this point.
at least One should of them should become a 1st pairing D,.... btw nice "sarcasm" really mature
