Confirmed with Link: Del Zotto waived

[Bevans]

You would think if there were anything in the world that could turn melynk against Dorion it would be sending 8-9 million a year to Bellville.

What good is saving a few hundred k on Dorion's salary if he saddles you with the most expensive AHL team in the league?

 

[PlayOn]

Trading MDZ if we have to give up any sort of pick is just a cheap move. You have to replace him, so hypothetically if it’s with a player making 1 mil, you’re giving up a pick to save 1 mil when you are nowhere near the cap and very unlikely to get any sort of upgrade.

You’re better off just playing him and hoping he turns into a decent #6, which really shouldn’t be a tall order.

 

[ksens]

You’re better off just playing him and hoping he turns into a decent #6, which really shouldn’t be a tall order.

We're going to have to eat money. That means paying him to play in the AHL, sit in the pressbox in the NHL, buying him out, or retaining salary on a trade.

If the Sens try and throw in draft picks or other assets instead of spending their way out of this f***up then you know what the real objective is here, and it isn't making the team better.

 

[Micklebot]

Trading MDZ if we have to give up any sort of pick is just a cheap move. You have to replace him, so hypothetically if it’s with a player making 1 mil, you’re giving up a pick to save 1 mil when you are nowhere near the cap and very unlikely to get any sort of upgrade.

You’re better off just playing him and hoping he turns into a decent #6, which really shouldn’t be a tall order.

He's already been replaced, we called up JBD and Hetherington. Trading him at the point is to get a discontent player out of the locker room.

It's pretty much the opposite of cheep, we could keep him as our #8 and never ice him but instead we sent him to the AHL and are paying someone else to be #8 and him.

 

[Beech]

He's already been replaced, we called up JBD and Hetherington. Trading him at the point is to get a discontent player out of the locker room.

It's pretty much the opposite of cheep, we could keep him as our #8 and never ice him but instead we sent him to the AHL and are paying someone else to be #8 and him.

Mik, is it a tad more complicated than that? Is the 23 man roster hard and fast? as in you cannot carry more unless you can prove injury, thus placing a player on the injury list.

If that is the case, you have no choice but to send him down and try another #7 in his place. I will assume a #8 is available only if a 1-7 is injured. Otherwise, with carrying 8 D, you risk having only 13 forwards with only 1 spare.

Unless they added roaster because of covid? Which is possible, You would know better. Is the roster limit not what did Murray in? you start carrying a 3rd Goalie and you are down to 1 spare at each group.

 

[HSF]

lmao taking on a bad contract for MDZ is just another bonehead move

 

[Burrowsaurus]

lmao taking on a bad contract for MDZ is just another bonehead move

I would rather take on another short bad contract than give up a prospect or a pick to get rid of him

 

[Liver King]

Just another blunder in Dorions book

8.25 mil in Belleville as a budget team. Like that's gotta get somebody fired

 

[HSF]

I would rather take on another short bad contract than give up a prospect or a pick to get rid of him

If it means we can use that money elsewhere I rather give up a pick

the sens don’t really need a ton of picks we need a GM who is willing to bring in quality players instead of wasting money on trash

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Only thing more confusing than the Sens signing Del Zotto is how quickly they gave up on him. Not a good look.

With even worse defenders ahead of him. This guy must have done something brutal off ice to be getting this treatment. 6 points in 10 games is equal to Brown, Holden, Zaitsev and Thomson combined.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Just another blunder in Dorions book

8.25 mil in Belleville as a budget team. Like that's gotta get somebody fired

Dorion's recruiting posters to get McGuire thrown under the bus

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Signing MDZ to a 2 year deal was a mistake. Signing him at all was probably a mistake.
The roster decisions until recently on D have been bad... His hype for Zaitsev continues to be bad.
For a good stretch of games MDZ could quite easlily have come in for Mete, Brown, Zaitsev for their replacement level play.
MDZ obviously sees that. Unhappy, he is waived because his play did not meet their too high expectations.

Now they will look to move him and it will cost us more to move him.

Dorion blames the player.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

If it means we can use that money elsewhere I rather give up a pick

the sens don’t really need a ton of picks we need a GM who is willing to bring in quality players instead of wasting money on trash

So where do you think that money is going to go? It’s just going to go to the next gudbranson or the next stepan or the next del zotto. Having to take back a bad contract sort of takes the decision out of Dorion and the pro scouts hands. It has to be player x with the bad contract. I like those odds better than Dorion and Co having their pick of vets in the offseason.

sure a new GM but that’s not happening right now so let’s discuss things in the context of our current sitch lol

 

[HSF]

So where do you think that money is going to go? It’s just going to go to the next gudbranson or the next stepan or the next del zotto. Having to take back a bad contract sort of takes the decision out of Dorion and the pro scouts hands. It has to be player x with the bad contract. I like those odds better than Dorion and Co having their pick of vets in the offseason.

sure a new GM but that’s not happening right now so let’s discuss things in the context of our current sitch lol

hence why i said 'quality' player

we don't need more trash taking up roster space. I don't think Dorion should be making anymore decisions

 

[bert]

I would rather take on another short bad contract than give up a prospect or a pick to get rid of him

Why do they have to do either they are way below the cap. Who cares if it costs Melnyk money dont make anymore dumb hockey decisions like wasting assets to get rid of bad contracts.

If it means we can use that money elsewhere I rather give up a pick

the sens don’t really need a ton of picks we need a GM who is willing to bring in quality players instead of wasting money on trash

This team needs everything, dont kid yourself. The wasting of assets is part of the reason why they are still so bad.

 

[TheDebater]

You would think if there were anything in the world that could turn melynk against Dorion it would be sending 8-9 million a year to Bellville.

What good is saving a few hundred k on Dorion's salary if he saddles you with the most expensive AHL team in the league?

Melnyk: Pierre I'm getting old, spend what you want, just build me a winner this year.

Dorion: You got it boss.

*4 months later*

Melnyk: Damnit Pierre, I meant spend what you want to build a winner at the NHL level.

Dorion: Oh.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Just another blunder in Dorions book

8.25 mil in Belleville as a budget team. Like that's gotta get somebody fired

Gonna have to start calling him the Teflon Man.

 

[GCK]

He's got 5 pts in 19 games and is getting 11 mins a night when in the lineup, least ES TOI of any reg player...

Isn’t that what you expect from a 4th line centre ? What are your expectations ?

 

[GCK]

There was a wrong decision. Acquiring Paquette along with Coburn.

I though the asset managers wanted the org to use their cap space to acquire picks ?

 

[GCK]

So you think San Jose's brain trust is wrong? They went out of their way last year to espouse his two-way game.

Also, going into this year how Bob Boughner feels about his game.

Latvia's Rudolfs Balcers eyes Olympics, strong year in NHL

An org talking up a player shocking. Anisimov had a great training camp.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

An org talking up a player shocking. Anisimov had a great training camp.

4th in forward ice time on the PK. On the 4th best unit in the league thus far.

This isn't just lip service. They are using him in defensive roles and having success.

But yeah I'll ignore that because the guy who said the Hall-Larsson trade was a win for the Oilers thinks he knows better.

 

[GCK]

4th in forward ice time on the PK. On the 4th best unit in the league thus far.

This isn't just lip service. They are using him in defensive roles and having success.

But yeah I'll ignore that because the guy who said the Hall-Larsson trade was a win for the Oilers thinks he knows better.

First, the Sharks rotate 6 forwards on the PK all averaging around 1:30 per game with Couture and Cogliano just slightly higher and second, anyone who thinks being a penalty killer means that player must play a sound defensive game doesn’t understand the defensive aspects of the game. PK is starts and stops with an active stick, that’s it

Way to mischaracterize my take on Hall-Larsson. I said Edmonton got better by making the trade. Larsson helped the team far more than Hall did. Sure Edmonton should have held out for a pick or something but they certainly didn’t lose the trade.

 

[Micklebot]

Isn’t that what you expect from a 4th line centre ? What are your expectations ?

Oh, is that what you expect from trading a second pick? Certainly not what Dorion expected.

 

[GCK]

Oh, is that what you expect from trading a second pick? Certainly not what Dorion expected.

Once a player is acquired I only care about how they can best be used. I complain about the trade and blame Dorion but it’s two separate issues.

We got a garbage return for Mark Stone but that doesn’t mean Brannstrom is garbage.

It’s ridiculous that we traded a 2nd for Atepan, but I was still hoping we would have got a good vet 4th liner.

 

[Micklebot]

Once a player is acquired I only care about how they can best be used. I complain about the trade and blame Dorion but it’s two separate issues.

We got a garbage return for Mark Stone but that doesn’t mean Brannstrom is garbage.

It’s ridiculous that we traded a 2nd for Atepan, but I was still hoping we would have got a good vet 4th liner.

So then you must have no issues with Tierney as he's provided as much or more than Stepan has this year. Decent vet 4th liner, I right?

The main issues with Stepan, and likely why the OP was so critical, was the role he was being played in, the salary/caphit, and what we gave up for him. Also, the fact that he didn't really provide much of anything a callup couldn't come close to or exceed.

So if your bar is set at he's a decent 12/13th forward once you've removed any context, sure I guess.