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[Gardner McKay]

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[effen]

My hot take is that the Rangers make a strong play for Larkin this summer, especially if they go deep this year. Would be a 1 year then see what happens move, but hes got a lot of connections to this team from Michigan and the US National Teams, and we know theyve been interested before. Drury has a type.

Maybe, but the price on Larkin is gonna be 150 cents on the dollar. Detroit really has no reason to trade him *now* that they've begun their ascent.

He's exactly who you want when they contend, age wise. 3-4 years from now.

 

[TheDirtyH]

I stand corrected. Even so, does that not prove my point that he can be this team's long term solution at 2C? If Copp is going to give them 50 points and play every situation thats incredibly valuable. By al accounts he's a good leader as well.

He could be. All depends on the number. I don't think he'll give us any sweetheart discount. His bff Trouba bent us over. Copp at 4-5mil for 4-5 years is manageable, but by all accounts he could earn more than that on the open market.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Maybe, but the price on Larkin is gonna be 150 cents on the dollar. Detroit really has no reason to trade him *now* that they've begun their ascent.

He's exactly who you want when they contend, age wise. 3-4 years from now.

Right but does he want to be there through a rebuild and hope they’re ready to contend in time to win a cup?
Plus does Detroit pay him 1c money?

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Motte-Goodrow-Hunt would be a baller 4th line.

We may get to see it once Kakko comes back.

Exactly what I've been saying!

Kreider - Zib - Laff
Panarin - Strome - Kakko
Vatrano - Copp - Chytil
Motte - Goodrow - Hunt or
Goodrow - Rooney - Motte

 

[RangerBoy]

 

[effen]

Right but does he want to be there through a rebuild and hope they’re ready to contend in time to win a cup?
Plus does Detroit pay him 1c money?

Hockey players don't like leaving.
And they of course always take the money.

And Detroit has a very clean cap sheet going forward.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Motte-Goodrow-Hunt would be a baller 4th line.

We may get to see it once Kakko comes back.

That is the ideal 4th line absolutely

 

[bhamill]

It's always more here.

Than Winnipeg? Hahaha. Do t know about THAT…

 

[JimmyG89]

So with PP2 unchanged at the moment, you've got the other forwards being Copp/Hunt/Motte/Reaves as the 4 not on a unit for tonight. Rolling Motte-Copp-Hunt as a line after the PP expires against team's top lines is actually not bad and has the chance to continue that momentum you hope the PP brings.

 

[McRanger92]

Maybe, but the price on Larkin is gonna be 150 cents on the dollar. Detroit really has no reason to trade him *now* that they've begun their ascent.

He's exactly who you want when they contend, age wise. 3-4 years from now.

*whispers* Kakko could entice them. But thats a discussion for the summer. I still think Drury intends to keep Copp & Motte. Possibly Vatrano too but the price needs to be right. Spreading the wealth around the roster rather than giving out another big ticket contract probably works better for the Rangers considering their star players are locked in long-term

 

[bhamill]

Thats an absolutely fine ask for us if he's our 2c. I'd like maybe one more year on that, but considering that its slightly more than strome right now, and also prevents us from re-signing strome.
It gives us time to develop more centers without blowing through all our prospects and other teams having insane leverage.

The 4-5 year range is also that window where it'll hopefully transition from Mika/Panarin being the focal points of the team to Laf/KK being the focal points.

I wouldn’t TOTALLY rule out keeping Strome too if they get creative. And I’m not a Strome hater but I’d keep Copp over him.

 

[mas0764]

Stone's not a center, Ziba had been treading water for literally years (and treaded water HERE his first year, he wasnt good), Eichel has no neck.

The sweet spot is to trade for a Zib or Elias Lindholm while they're being medicore and before they break out. The problem is most of the time Victor Rask ends up being Victor Rask.

If you want a functional guy who's not an earth mover, you can get a Bo Horvat with enough quarters. You can't get for an Elias Petterson. Your problem is only Pettersons move the needle for you. And picks and random D propsects don't move the needle for the guy who owns Pettersons.

If your stance is to overpay for 23-26 y/o former high picks and hope to get lucky, sure? But central to that is you're relying on luck.

Interestingly enough Eichel is playing right now despite "no neck."

It can be done. It's not every day but it happens.

And I don't agree that you can't find a top 6 young center for a top 4 RD prospect plus more. Even without immediate precedent that's good value for good value.

 

[Kovalev27]

Goodrow is way better as a plus fourth liner than an average third liner. Same as Copp. If he's your 3C you are cooking with gas. If he's your 2C you better have talent edges in other places.

Like artemi panarin

 

[TheDirtyH]

After the season he's putting together, I don't think any extension for Larkin could begin at less than 8x8. We plain and simple can't afford something like that unless one or both of Kreider and Trouba are yeeted from the roster. No matter how low you project Kakko, the bottom line is that giving up a 22 year old cost-controlled top six winger would require us bringing in an asset that is equally under team control.

 

[mas0764]

This is the Vegas writer for The Athletic.

What does this mean for Vegas? They are not cap compliant?

 

[mas0764]

Like artemi panarin

He's a talent equivalent in comparison to the elite teams like Tampa and Colorado.

 

[RangersFan1994]

So with PP2 unchanged at the moment, you've got the other forwards being Copp/Hunt/Motte/Reaves as the 4 not on a unit for tonight. Rolling Motte-Copp-Hunt as a line after the PP expires against team's top lines is actually not bad and has the chance to continue that momentum you hope the PP brings.

Goodrow better be the center on that PP unit cause Chyti is not that good at faceoffs. Copp would be a better choice once he sees how the PP works throughout the game

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

What does this mean for Vegas? They are not cap compliant?

Not sure but that's what it sounds like or at least when some of their folks come off LTIR.

 

[mas0764]

*whispers* Kakko could entice them.

But then you are out a future stud RW.

 

[Fitzy]

There's really no tangible difference between Motte and Hunt, they are basically the same player lol. Maybe Motte has better straight ahead speed and Hunt is better on his edges but that's really it. With hunt having continuity with the team I'm not surprised at all he stays on the 3rd line.

What gives Motte the edge to me is that he kills penalties, although that's more or less irrelevant to standard line rotation.

 

[McRanger92]

But then you are out a future stud RW.

Yeah but youd have a current stud center who is 26 in Larkin. Othmann may make the roster next year if they think hes done developing in the O. Also who knows what happens in the summer? Maybe they make amends with kravtsov and he slots in as a cheap RW. Theres also always the possibility that a veteran takes a below market deal to chase a few Cups in NY (Reilly Smith anyone?). Lots of options in the offseason

 

[mas0764]

Yeah, I'm not doing Kakko for Larkin.

 

[duhmetreE]

Does it really matter? I'm sure Copp takes the role of whatever the center is doing on that line.

If he takes the role and takes faceoffs... he's the Center. It does matter for defense and transition

 

[bleedblue94]

What does this mean for Vegas? They are not cap compliant?

I just heard a report that the NHL also screwed up bc they didn't have it or they didn't confirm the list with Vegas when they approved the trade. If Vegas never received the list from ott or the NHL than I don't really think this all falls on them. If the NHL itself didn't play a role in this screwup this deal would have been avoided yesterday.

 

[TominNC]

We don't have a realistic chance this year. You don't toss away future chances to make yourself feel better about right now.

Bu tthey didn't toss away future chances. THey kept all the top prospects.