Days since Sens Incident

[AchtzehnBaby]

Here we go again... anyone who is not inline with haters is a Melnyk bot...

 

[Ray Kinsella]

Here we go again... anyone who is not inline with haters is a Melnyk bot...

What do you define as haters and who are they?

 

[Sensung]

I keep hearing talk of these elusive Melnyk supporters, but have yet to come across nary a one, neither here nor in the flesh.

We could always put this whole issue to rest By getting back to speaking to each other on the phone, or face to face; only giving ‘actual friend’ access to our private worlds. It’s hard to troll and be trolled when you’re old school.

Ha! I jest, there is no going back for brave new world. Personally I don’t use social media much, but that’s because I can’t be bothered to learn new internet tricks that don’t involve porn... again, I jest...

To find a Melnyk supporter simply consult a mirror.

 

[Sensung]

The fact that their is no smoking gun proof that Melnyk was behind the twitter bots is immaterial. The general public could easily see him being behind this kind of ill conceived and unprofessional plan. They merely need to remember that Melnyk chose to end months of radio silence by attempting to sell the EK trade through the Boro fireside chat.

In the past, a paper like the citizen would have left Twitterbotgate to the bloggers, but by declaring war on the press Eugene is now suffering yet another self inflicted wound by having this story out in the mainstream.

He simply can't help himself.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Being the devil's advocate here... could it be fake twitter accounts from the media making the Sens' org trying to look bad?

Edit: ...trying to look worse... heck, who knows anymore!

Maybe. I totally believe this and the fake trolls on here devaluing the team for potential sale to another city.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Seems unlikely but then again, the internet is so much weirder than it was even 5 years ago.

Yep.

I think both politics and most for profit companies have realized just how important it is (and easy) to sway public opinion through social media. There's a lot of money being spent on social media, and a lot of companies out there who are built on social media manipulation. Some companies exist just to make sure a predetermined order of results appears on the typical google search, for instance.

It's getting to the point where nearly everything you see online is being manipulated by professionals, not just trolls living in mommy's basement.

 

[dumbdick]

The fact that their is no smoking gun proof that Melnyk was behind the twitter bots is immaterial. The general public could easily see him being behind this kind of ill conceived and unprofessional plan. They merely need to remember that Melnyk chose to end months of radio silence by attempting to sell the EK trade through the Boro fireside chat.

In the past, a paper like the citizen would have left Twitterbotgate to the bloggers, but by declaring war on the press Eugene is now suffering yet another self inflicted wound by having this story out in the mainstream.

He simply can't help himself.

So, whether someone did something bad or not is immaterial? Because he tried to reach out to fans via a communication about the state of the franchise, which was bad, after months of silence, which apparently was also bad.

I worry about you sensung. I'm really glad you're just into hockey and not politics or religion.

 

[Sensung]

So, whether someone did something bad or not is immaterial? Because he tried to reach out to fans via a communication about the state of the franchise, which was bad, after months of silence, which apparently was also bad.

I worry about you sensung. I'm really glad you're just into hockey and not politics or religion.

The point is that Melnyk has created a narrative through his well established track record that makes it easy for the general public to believe he's behind the bots, even if he's not.

Personally, I think a good deal of the drama surrounding the team has been orchestrated by the group trying to purchase the Sens.

Eugene being an idiot and his own worst enemy just plays into their hands and makes their job that much easier.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Here we go again... anyone who is not inline with haters is a Melnyk bot...

You can call him Mr.melnyk we all know what's up

 

[Micklebot]

Might have to reset the counter, Hoffman just commented on the broken lockeroom comments, implying that Dorion needed to give a reason for the change, but if you ask the guys in the room if he was a problem, they could tell you otherwise.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Might have to reset the counter, Hoffman just commented on the broken lockeroom comments, implying that Dorion needed to give a reason for the change, but if you ask the guys in the room if he was a problem, they could tell you otherwise.

Not sure who'd go on the record on that one... Stone likely would he seems like a straight up guy that isn't afraid of Dorion's ire

 

[Micklebot]

Not sure who'd go on the record on that one... Stone likely would he seems like a straight up guy that isn't afraid of Dorion's ire

In the end, it's just another instance of a player traded out that basically calls out Dorion oon misrepresenting things.

First Turris, then Karlsson, now Hoffman.

 

[Stylizer1]

In the end, it's just another instance of a player traded out that basically calls out Dorion oon misrepresenting things.

First Turris, then Karlsson, now Hoffman.

News flash, the media is a tool.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

In the end, it's just another instance of a player traded out that basically calls out Dorion oon misrepresenting things.

First Turris, then Karlsson, now Hoffman.

I tend to side with the players here vs Dorion's bs stream

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Why side with either party, it’s not like Hoffman is going to say yeah Pierre is right and I was a problem. Take media quotes from management and players with a huge grain of salt...

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Why side with either party, it’s not like Hoffman is going to say yeah Pierre is right and I was a problem. Take media quotes from management and players with a huge grain of salt...

Why ? Because Dorion came out and said the dressing room was broken as a reason why he had to trade Hoffman... and get a marginal return at that.
He slammed Hoffman's reputation. Did he have cause? If the players say no ... I side with them. they are in the room. Dorion also said he never knew about it until everyone was already gone. Dorion is an ass as far as I am concerned

 

[swiftwin]

Why ? Because Dorion came out and said the dressing room was broken as a reason why he had to trade Hoffman... and get a marginal return at that.
He slammed Hoffman's reputation. Did he have cause? If the players say no ... I side with them. they are in the room. Dorion also said he never knew about it until everyone was already gone. Dorion is an ass as far as I am concerned

Source?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Source?

if
/if/Submit
conjunction
1.
introducing a conditional clause.
synonyms: on (the) condition that, provided (that), providing (that), presuming (that), supposing (that), assuming (that), as long as, given that, in the event that
"if the rain holds out, we can walk"
2.
despite the possibility that; no matter whether.
"if it takes me seven years, I shall do it"
noun
1.
a condition or supposition.
"there are so many ifs and buts in the policy"
synonyms: uncertainty, doubt; More

 

[Micklebot]

Here's the full quote from Hoffman when asked about the broken lockeroom comments from Dorion:

“People need reasons why they get rid of some players, and I’m not going to say an excuse, but if you go ask anybody in that locker room if I was a problem, I think you’d be able to find the answer yourself"

 

[BatherSeason]

In the end, it's just another instance of a player traded out that basically calls out Dorion oon misrepresenting things.

First Turris, then Karlsson, now Hoffman.

Lee Versage and Mendes both felt like he was implying that Karlsson was the problem, not him.

I completely disagree with both Lee and Ian.

 

[Micklebot]

Lee Versage and Mendes both felt like he was implying that Karlsson was the problem, not him.

I completely disagree with both Lee and Ian.

I don't expect Hoffman to think he's the problem, but either way, Dorion basically said the broken locker room was fixed after dealing Hoffman, Hoffman clearly doesn't think he was the problem and thinks the players will back him up.

For what it's worth, Boro was interviewed and mentioned a bunch of the guys are still good friends with Hoff.

 

[slamigo]

Not sure who'd go on the record on that one... Stone likely would he seems like a straight up guy that isn't afraid of Dorion's ire

Dorion should be kissing Stone’s ass and begging him to stay. Would love it if Stone just spoke his mind publicly.

In fact, I’m going to ask for that from Santa this year.

 

[DaveMatthew]

I don't expect Hoffman to think he's the problem, but either way, Dorion basically said the broken locker room was fixed after dealing Hoffman, Hoffman clearly doesn't think he was the problem and thinks the players will back him up.

For what it's worth, Boro was interviewed and mentioned a bunch of the guys are still good friends with Hoff.

The locker room dysfunction is just a convenient excuse Dorion found and the media bought it hook line and sinker.

I have no doubt that Karlsson and Hoffman dislike eachother.
I have no doubt that other players knew this, but continued to be friends with both.
And I have no doubt that that issue had next to no impact on how the team played last year.

The roster sucked. The system sucked. The team sucked. It's that simple.

I mean, the day before he was traded, Borowiecki was walking in Karlsson's charity event. The day after, his wife tweeted how much they'll miss the Karlsson's. Today, he said he was hoping Hoffman got a tribute and is still good friends with him.

The drama!

 

[The Lewler]

I love it. The locker room was broken but noone was the problem. Classic

 

[hawthy]

I love it. The locker room was broken but noone was the problem. Classic

You....you mean our general manager is clueless?

That’s not the Dorion I have observed through all of this!