Player Discussion David Pastrnak XI

[BigGoalBrad]

He’s on pace for 168 points which is a stretch. It would be awesome if he can score more than Kucherov did last year.

Kuchurov last year is the modern record Jumbo Joe had it before him the year he was traded. I think he can hit that but him and 63 have to play all 82 or close. (Bergy can't miss more than a dozen.)

The assists are becoming better than the goals.

Wonder if he can catch Oates at 142. If he gets to Espo's team record 155 that should stand for most post lockout points in a season unless they drastically change the rules and go to 3 on 3 or something.

 

[wintersej]

The PP one timers are nice, but he will go cold there eventually. A big change to me in his game is how much more he is controlling the puck in the offensive zone. His big problem in the past was that he was weak on the puck and a turnover machine. Don’t see those warts nearly as much and it’s leading to more chances to show off his offensive skill.

 

[bob27]

Pastrnak is like the antithesis for the conventional wisdom that players perform better when they simplify their game. He still produces at a good pace when he doesn't do anything fancy, but when he has the confidence to play like it's junior hockey he's just dominant.

 

[BruinDust]

Kuchurov last year is the modern record Jumbo Joe had it before him the year he was traded. I think he can hit that but him and 63 have to play all 82 or close. (Bergy can't miss more than a dozen.)

The assists are becoming better than the goals.

Wonder if he can catch Oates at 142. If he gets to Espo's team record 155 that should stand for most post lockout points in a season unless they drastically change the rules and go to 3 on 3 or something.

Zero chance. Your talking about a number that has been eclipsed just twice since. (Lemiuex and Jagr both topped 142 in 1995-96).

 

[Mainehockey33]

Kuchurov last year is the modern record Jumbo Joe had it before him the year he was traded. I think he can hit that but him and 63 have to play all 82 or close. (Bergy can't miss more than a dozen.)

The assists are becoming better than the goals.

Wonder if he can catch Oates at 142. If he gets to Espo's team record 155 that should stand for most post lockout points in a season unless they drastically change the rules and go to 3 on 3 or something.

I was looking at Jágr’s best season, he had 149 points. How cool would it be if Pastrnak bested one of the greats? That and Ovi’s 65 goal season are the two records that would impress me the most if Pastrnak best one or both.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Zero chance. Your talking about a number that has been eclipsed just twice since. (Lemiuex and Jagr both topped 142 in 1995-96).

Before last year I would have thought 126 points from anyone not prime Crosby was nearly impossible post lockout.

 

[DKH]

i mean, look at the way he passed the puck last night. electric. 23 years old.
incredible attitude. hard worker. elite skills. at the end of his career, he will
be 3rd in b's history in points @DKH

I went to a 2014 draft party at my buds house- a bunch of us went out to eat before. Alicat was with us and we were discussing the draft and I was asked who I wanted.

I said the Russian Bergeron- Ivan Barbashev. But I said if this guy Pastrnak’s there I bet they take him. I know Sweeney did 2 separate week long trips to Sweden to watch prospects. The person identified Pastrna.


When the Bruins pick they were both there

worked out well and of course I looked good calling it which of course mattered

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Zero chance. Your talking about a number that has been eclipsed just twice since. (Lemiuex and Jagr both topped 142 in 1995-96).

Well first off I think this is the year he sets his career high. 99's best seasons were age 20-24.

Stars need to align to hit numbers like that but I just see enough nights he pads his stats with 3+ points against bad teams.

But remember thats under the assumption that him and 63 play 80 games and Bergeron misses 10 or less.

Oates was older but Espo and Orr would have been around Pasta's age in 1971 when they had 155 and 139 points respectively.

 

[BruinDust]

Well first off I think this is the year he sets his career high. 99's best seasons were age 20-24.

Stars need to align to hit numbers like that but I just see enough nights he pads his stats with 3+ points against bad teams.

But remember thats under the assumption that him and 63 play 80 games and Bergeron misses 10 or less.

Oates was older but Espo and Orr would have been around Pasta's age in 1971 when they had 155 and 139 points respectively.

Age has nothing to do with it. That 1992-93 season was an anomaly offensively compared to the years that followed it. Lemiuex and Lafontaine topped Oates in points, while Yzerman, Turgeon, and Selanne weren't far behind with 137, 132 and 132 respectively. 6 of the Top 40 single-season scoring records come from that season. Think about that. Was just a different time. 14 players cracked 50 goals that year. Last year there was 2.

I can see Pasta eclipsing 50 goals and 100 points this year. But he's not touching numbers like 130-140 points.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Age has nothing to do with it. That 1992-93 season was an anomaly offensively compared to the years that followed it. Lemiuex and Lafontaine topped Oates in points, while Yzerman, Turgeon, and Selanne weren't far behind with 137, 132 and 132 respectively. 6 of the Top 40 single-season scoring records come from that season. Think about that. Was just a different time. 14 players cracked 50 goals that year. Last year there was 2.

I can see Pasta eclipsing 50 goals and 100 points this year. But he's not touching numbers like 130-140 points.

Kucherov was two points away from 130 last season. If Crosby didn't get concussed in 2010 he would have likely put up over 130. It's not impossible.

 

[BruinDust]

Kucherov was two points away from 130 last season. If Crosby didn't get concussed in 2010 he would have likely put up over 130. It's not impossible.

Your talking about 2 seasons and two players in the past 26 years since that offensive surge in 1992-93. No one has cracked 130 in the post lock-out era. Heck it hasn't been done since the 1990s.

Impossible? No anything is possible. But I'd put the likely-hood at less than 1%.

And the original point was topping Oates at 142. Not happening.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Your talking about 2 seasons and two players in the past 26 years since that offensive surge in 1992-93. No one has cracked 130 in the post lock-out era. Heck it hasn't been done since the 1990s.

Impossible? No anything is possible. But I'd put the likely-hood at less than 1%.

And the original point was topping Oates at 142. Not happening.

I'm not sure about that. It's very improbable obviously. You need to have an extremely talented player that's the best at his position playing with two other linemates that are just as good. Luckily Pastrnak has this, and experience with those players. He also has one of the best power play QB's in the league, Krug. If he can stay healthy, I think he has as good a shot at topping 130 than anyone post lockout. All the ingredients are there, he just needs health and consistency.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Kucherov was two points away from 130 last season. If Crosby didn't get concussed in 2010 he would have likely put up over 130. It's not impossible.

The secondary scoring is iffy this year and I can see lines 2-4 being like musical chairs. Perfection line isn't taking their foot off the gas they know they might need to score 3-4 goals on certain nights between even strength and the PP to win.

Could be the PP's last year with Krug. They are not going to stop staying out for 90 seconds each man advantage.

If you tell me Pasternak and Marchand will both play 80 I am taking the over on Pasta passing Kucherov.

 

[Tbaybruin]

Never say never about this power play It’s positively spectacular. It’s so good your quite disappointed it doesn’t score all the time. The three guys are developing Sedin like radar and Krug is magical I think the key to getting 130 points is the play of Marchand. If he doesn’t go into his dipsy doodle mode with brain farts 130 isn’t out of the question

 

[b in vancouver]

Take a guess why...

It's a mystery I tell ya, a mystery.
However when his line mate takes a two minute penalty there's 20 pages.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

The PP one timers are nice, but he will go cold there eventually. A big change to me in his game is how much more he is controlling the puck in the offensive zone. His big problem in the past was that he was weak on the puck and a turnover machine. Don’t see those warts nearly as much and it’s leading to more chances to show off his offensive skill.

His chances to hit 50 are dependent on 2 things.
The health of his line and how long he "cools off"
on the PP. He has had significant stretches of
not scoring in the past that killed is chances of
scoring 40.

 

[BruinsBtn]

The old Nylander vs Pasta threads are golden:

"Nylander quite easily. Pastrnak is playing the best hockey he'll ever play right now, when Nylander his his prime, he'll be a level above, simple as that."

Pastrnak vs Nylander

 

[finchster]

Guy Lafleur also had a big breakout season at age 23. Just putting it out there...

Pastrnak has also been voted a top 10 right winger in the NHL the the last three years. We might have the best forward offensively in a long time. He appears to have Art Ross potential.

 

[jgatie]

The old Nylander vs Pasta threads are golden:

"Nylander quite easily. Pastrnak is playing the best hockey he'll ever play right now, when Nylander his his prime, he'll be a level above, simple as that."

Pastrnak vs Nylander

Leafs fans are so cute. Delusional, but cute.

 

[Smitty93]

The old Nylander vs Pasta threads are golden:

"Nylander quite easily. Pastrnak is playing the best hockey he'll ever play right now, when Nylander his his prime, he'll be a level above, simple as that."

Pastrnak vs Nylander

Fun Fact: Since that post (2/5/18), Pastrnak has outscored Nylander in points per game at a rate of 2:1.

 

[TCB]

 

[BNHL]

He went on a goal scoring run like this last year but tailed off.

 

[Mainehockey33]

He went on a goal scoring run like this last year but tailed off.

Because he broke his thumb, right? I remember him being on pace for 50 goals before his injury.

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

Because he broke his thumb, right? I remember him being on pace for 50 goals before his injury.

Even with the injury he scored at a 47 goal pace last year

 

[Gee Wally]

David Pastrnak heeding Bruins president Cam Neely’s advice in pursuit of 50 goals

Bruins president Cam Neely, who's also the last Boston player to pot 50 goals in a season, expects to see David Pastrnak end that drought this season.

"Well I made a comment the other day that he can't be selfish," said Neely, who scored 50 goals in 49 games in 1993-94, during an appearance on The Skate Podcast. "And what I mean by that is you can't pass up opportunities to shoot. When I say to people you're selfish when you don't shoot, they don't understand that. They think they're not being selfish by passing the puck, and for me you know when you have an opportunity to put the puck on the net, you should put it on the net, especially the way that David shoots.

"I think if he continues to put pucks on the net and the line continues to click the way they are our power play goes - I don't know if we're going to sustain this kind of clip - but obviously he's got a great shot at getting 50 this year."

Neely doesn't just share his advice with Pastrnak on popular podcasts. He's shared his opinions with the 23-year-old, and Pastrnak, who heads into the Bruins' game at Detroit on Friday with 15 goals in 15 games, thoroughly understands what Neely wants him to do.

"Sometimes you just got to close your eyes and shoot," Pastrnak responded to WEEI.com when asked what Neely has told him. "When you're feeling it the puck's going in, you never know what kind of shot's going to go in. Yeah, so obviously it's always helpful."