TSN: Darren Dreger

[KingJoffrey]

Who cares about Dreger? You guys don't have to hear his ramblings. Why does it bother you guys so much that a journalist is trying to make a scope and earn his meal ticket?

There are journalists like that all across hockey on many different platforms.

 

[The Apologist]

Who cares about Dreger? You guys don't have to hear his ramblings. Why does it bother you guys so much that a journalist is trying to make a scope and earn his meal ticket?

There are journalists like that all across hockey on many different platforms.

Why does it bother you so much that it bothers others?

 

[glue]

Heard him this morning while listening to TSN 1050, he honestly sounded way more neutral and calm then in the previous days. Maybe he's got the hint haha.

 

[therealkoho]

He hasn't had a source inside an NHL team since his cousin with benefits received his pink slip. These days, he is to Ferris as Woj is to Ballmer.

you do know that Nonis has never stopped working in the NHL

 

[Nineteen67]

Except it does matter when you try to call people out for something. If Dregs had come out with 11m, people would not be ridiculing him the way they are. Hed still get flavk but the reason people are mocking him is that his takes are ridiculous.
But hey, you do you.

Yes they would. Remember all hacks that speculated that Nylander wanted 8 million.

 

[ACC1224]

Amazing how people are up in arms believing that he is posting inside information from the Marner camp, yet the majority vote that he isn't an insider.

 

[Mr Hockey]

Amazing how people are up in arms believing that he is posting inside information from the Marner camp, yet the majority vote that he isn't an insider.

that would also make his info legit, right?

 

[DueDiligence]

Couldn't disagree more.
If a major member of the media inflates someone's value, it becomes part of the negotiations because it changes public opinion.

If every member of the media said anything more than 9x8 was an overpay, it becomes part of the bargaining narrative.

I hate Dreger because value is not absolute, its partly perceived value.

Do you really think that Dubas or any other GM pays any attention to what Dreger says and adjusts a contract because of it??? Come on give your head a shake!

 

[ACC1224]

that would also make his info legit, right?

Depends if he's getting legit info

 

[nuck]

Yes they would. Remember all hacks that speculated that Nylander wanted 8 million.

I think he did want $8M. The hack part was nobody bothered to throw in there was nothing to suggest he was worth close to that., its like they were fanning the flames rather than really reporting on it. Same now as then, none of the "main stream" guys are really talking about how badly the Sabres and Flyers got raped with their two signings because thats somehow less newsworthy than "Marner could be as high as $13M" or other fantasy speculation.

 

[The Apologist]

Amazing how people are up in arms believing that he is posting inside information from the Marner camp, yet the majority vote that he isn't an insider.

Yeah I dont get that at all. He clearly has contacts.
Its also clear what side of the fence they fall on.

 

[stickty111]

Nonis went to Anaheim, and they became a terrible team.

 

[JayfromNB1219]

My guess would be no. But do I think it's possible, yes I do. I don't think it would be $13x5, I think it would be $13Mx7. I could also see a 11.5Mx5 offer sheet.

My gut says Leafs will just match, so teams will be hesitant to bother with an OS against the Leafs. That said, I could see a team like Montreal think I'll put in a big OS on Marner. If we get him, great. If we don't, it hurts the leafs chances of improving their team and it likely makes Kap or AJ available and then I can OS them and only pay a 2nd round pick.

More than all that, I think Aho is most in danger because the owner is cheap.

Kap and AJ have both signed...moot point

 

[Leafslet]

i think dregs is a legit insider, but what is pretty clear is that agents & teams use him to manipulate info pretty clearly without dregs realizing what’s happening.

no one is considering offer sheeting marner to a 13-14 min contract, it’s idiotic, and it’s clearly coming from ferris/marner camp, and the moron doesn’t realize it.

or he does and is complicit in it because it gets clicks which is even worse.

 

[Leaf4Life79]

He provides EXCELLENT lip service and clickable hit pieces! =)

 

[AllDay28]

 

[8816 others]

Maybe the Leafs should re-hire him as an AGM or scout so Dreger can go back to shilling for the team rather than for agents/parents.

 

[Menzinger]

Who cares about Dreger? You guys don't have to hear his ramblings. Why does it bother you guys so much that a journalist is trying to make a scope and earn his meal ticket?

There are journalists like that all across hockey on many different platforms.

What's wrong with calling out shoddy journalism though?

If sportsmedia had a fraction of the ethical standards of other kinds we wouldnt see such garbage pushed to the public

 

[Mr Hockey]

What's wrong with calling out shoddy journalism though?

If sportsmedia had a fraction of the ethical standards of other kinds we wouldnt see such garbage pushed to the public

in your opinion, what has Dreger said that is wrong, etc?

 

[al secord]

I think it’s ok to call him a journalist - he gathers facts and presents them in a newsworthy fashion to the public.

He also uses the information to speculates what he thinks could happen. He certainly lets you know when he’s speculating and when he’s reporting. Which is all I want them to do so ?I can form my own opinion.

I get what you're trying to do here, but what is your definition of "facts?" The Kelly-Anne Conway definition?

 

[Jack Bauer]

I get what you're trying to do here, but what is your definition of "facts?" The Kelly Conway definition?

That's what happens when everyone starts reading and giving hits to any idiot who buys a url and calls it an NHL trade rumor site.

Traditional media has to get those peoples attention back through over the top coverage both in terms of volume and in terms of click bait headlines and opinions.

If we let people like Eklund die a quick death in cyberspace vs legitimizing his "throw stuff at a wall and see what sticks" methods we wouldn't hear half the 'opinion' from journalists that gets people all worked up but is meant to generate any attention both positive and unfortunately negative.

Imagine working in an industry where anyone who thinks they can buy a url and spent 15 minutes on google can all of a sudden call themselves an anonymous journalist who can operate with zero ethics and boundaries....then imagine the masses starting to flock to THIS method of news vs trusted journalists.

Sports fans obsession for ANY news....true or not....have created the imbalance and absolute train wreck coverage we now see.

Personally I follow a dozen tried and true sources on twitter and tune out the rest. I'm no worse off for it information wise. I just ingest a lot less crap on a daily basis right now then most who crave anything and therefore get crap because there's nothing to report 99% of the time.

 

[HandshakeLineRespect]

Dreger is an activist. Activists cant be journalists.

 

[Nineteen67]

I get what you're trying to do here, but what is your definition of "facts?" The Kelly-Anne Conway definition?

Attribution. All I ask.

No lying by omission a la Conway and MSNBC

 

[Menzinger]

in your opinion, what has Dreger said that is wrong, etc?

That Marner was getting an offersheet at the 12-14 million range. It was complete nonsense.

Just because a source tells you something thats absolutely crazy doesnt mean you have to repeat it to the public.

 

[MattySnipes]

Why does it bother you so much that it bothers others?

Love the posters who "complain about posters complaining"