Dark Side of the Ring - Viceland show

[Dr Pepper]

Listening to Bubba Ray describe how Mae demanded that he put her through the table.

Such a great story, lol. Really showed how passionate Mae was for the business - and how scared Bubba was when she basically forced him to do that spot.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Moolah is a scumbag

 

[alko]

Very sad stories there. But there are for sure many others that could be made.

Lex Luger
Chyna
Eddie Guerrero
Mr. Perfect
Owen Hart
John "Earthquake" Tenta
Yokozuna
British Bulldog
Ludwig Borga
Giant Gonzales

and this list go on.

 

[IceColdOx]

Catching up now and I'd like to say Jim Cornette is a national treasure. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea and I disagree with him on a couple things, but my god he's such a wealth of knowledge. I love the guy and could listen to him for hours.

 

[joestevens29]

Very sad stories there. But there are for sure many others that could be made.

Lex Luger
Chyna
Eddie Guerrero
Mr. Perfect
Owen Hart
John "Earthquake" Tenta
Yokozuna
British Bulldog
Ludwig Borga
Giant Gonzales

and this list go on.

Isn't Luger alive?

 

[Emperoreddy]

The Von Erich episode legit had me choked up.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Catching up now and I'd like to say Jim Cornette is a national treasure. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea and I disagree with him on a couple things, but my god he's such a wealth of knowledge. I love the guy and could listen to him for hours.

My non-wrestling fan friends who are watching this have fallen in love with Cornette

 

[JackSlater]

Cornette is the man. One of the best talkers in wrestling history, loads of wrestling knowledge, and even when he's wrong he's still entertaining.

 

[Shoalzie]

Cornette is great...his back and forth with Russo about the Screwjob was awesome.

'The Wrestlers' have been good so far. A little dated on the footage but the stories hold true. What a great roster they had in Evolve for the first episode. The second one is a lot about MVP and some MLW stuff.

 

[alko]

Isn't Luger alive?

It is. But his life-patch is worth to mention.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Cornette is great...his back and forth with Russo about the Screwjob was awesome.

'The Wrestlers' have been good so far. A little dated on the footage but the stories hold true. What a great roster they had in Evolve for the first episode. The second one is a lot about MVP and some MLW stuff.

The screwjob was a perfect first season not horrifying insider story. Without it’s all depressing. Non-wrestling fans know who Bret and Shawn are, and the pure carnie nature of it is entertaining.

They need to do some WCW stories and any one of Hogan’s bullshit.

A story on Honky Tonk Man and how he engineering his title run would be great too. Stories about these guys politicking is great.

 

[Shoalzie]

I was fully into the (re)learning about Screwjob. I'm still re-watching WWF/WCW/ECW from the '97. I just re-watched Survivor Series in the last couple weeks. I watched that Dark of the Ring and listened to Bruce and Conrad's podcast about it.

It's a fairly simple story but it makes sense. I don't think there's much more to the story than Bret didn't want to drop the belt when he asked to on his way out and Vince took action and it resulted in a nasty split with Bret and the company.

 

[JackSlater]

It's a fairly simple story but it makes sense. I don't think there's much more to the story than Bret didn't want to drop the belt when he asked to on his way out and Vince took action and it resulted in a nasty split with Bret and the company.

I think it's more that Bret didn't want to drop it to a certain person in a certain way on his way out.

 

[HandsomeHollywood]

Good to see Corny getting his tires pumped here.
Even when I don't agree with him, I can often still see where he's coming from and how he's arrived at said opinion.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I want a fall of WCW episode and I want a fall of TNA episode. WWE’s version is too bias. They still claim the tank was a big deal when it wasn’t.

Or combine them into a Russo episode since he was a key player in both stories.

 

[JackSlater]

I want a fall of WCW episode and I want a fall of TNA episode. WWE’s version is too bias. They still claim the tank was a big deal when it wasn’t.

Or combine them into a Russo episode since he was a key player in both stories.

A fall of WCW episode, without the WWE lens, would be very good. A Russo episode, depending on who the talking heads were, could be gold.

 

[Emperoreddy]

A fall of WCW episode, without the WWE lens, would be very good. A Russo episode, depending on who the talking heads were, could be gold.

There was just so much bollocks going on in and out of the ring at the end of WCW. All the on the pole matches. 20 something world title changes in a year. All the triple cage matches. Finger poke of doom. Jeff laying down for Hogan and the two shoot promos that followed.

Make that one a two parter.

 

[Kimi]

The problem with the death of WCW story is that there's not really a human story there to sell to non-fans, which is what you really want. It all just boils down to WCW were terrible at making a show, and then the company died. Which isn't surprising or interesting alone.

There's a lot of crazy going on, but it's basically all people being bad at their jobs.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

They could have been paying no talent whatsoever and they still would have lost money iirc, they were spending so much on production and whatnot.

 

[Emperoreddy]

The problem with the death of WCW story is that there's not really a human story there to sell to non-fans, which is what you really want. It all just boils down to WCW were terrible at making a show, and then the company died. Which isn't surprising or interesting alone.

There's a lot of crazy going on, but it's basically all people being bad at their jobs.

Making it a Russo story might solve that.

 

[Emperoreddy]

They could have been paying no talent whatsoever and they still would have lost money iirc, they were spending so much on production and whatnot.

Halloween Havoc 94 is hilarious with the amount of money they spent on that stupid monster truck match. Custom trucks, helicopter shots, pyro.

WCW is amazing.

 

[IceColdOx]

Halloween Havoc 94 is hilarious with the amount of money they spent on that stupid monster truck match. Custom trucks, helicopter shots, pyro.

WCW is amazing.

Jim Herd era WCW with Big Josh, the York Foundation and turning Ricky Morton heel was so wonderfully awful.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Jim Herd era WCW with Big Josh, the York Foundation and turning Ricky Morton heel was so wonderfully awful.

King of the road was what. 92/93? What a ridiculous idea for a match.

 

[Engebretson]

I want a fall of WCW episode and I want a fall of TNA episode. WWE’s version is too bias. They still claim the tank was a big deal when it wasn’t.

Or combine them into a Russo episode since he was a key player in both stories.

They'd have to do an entire season on Russo to truly do it justice.

 

[IceColdOx]

They'd have to do an entire season on Russo to truly do it justice.

Each episode will be on a pole.