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NFL: Daniel Snyder's future as owner - Team is about to be put for sale?

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Easily over 4b. As others have stated, it is rare for an NFL franchise to come up for sale. And past this, if it happens, what team can you see coming up for sale?
 
Troy McClure

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KesselMania said:
Rarity doesn’t really play here, it’s not gemstones. $5-6b is simply a non-starter for someone wanting to see a return before they’re a senior citizen. NFL franchises make a lot of money but not that kind of money. The legacy families like Halas, Rooney, and Mara aren’t worth that kind of money for that reason.
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NFL franchises are both rarer and more desired than gemstones. The return on investment comes from knowing you can choose to see at any point in the future and make a great profit. That's on top of the annual profits these teams crank out.

"The average franchise value of National Football League teams has consistently increased over the years. From 2014 to 2022, the average value of a NFL franchise has more than doubled from 1.43 million U.S. dollars to around 4.47 billion U.S. dollars."

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NFL average franchise value 2023 | Statista

In 2023, the average franchise value of teams in the National Football League (NFL) was just under 5.11 billion U.S.
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Troy McClure said:
NFL franchises are both rarer and more desired than gemstones. The return on investment comes from knowing you can choose to see at any point in the future and make a great profit. That's on top of the annual profits these teams crank out.

"The average franchise value of National Football League teams has consistently increased over the years. From 2014 to 2022, the average value of a NFL franchise has more than doubled from 1.43 million U.S. dollars to around 4.47 billion U.S. dollars."

www.statista.com

NFL average franchise value 2023 | Statista

In 2023, the average franchise value of teams in the National Football League (NFL) was just under 5.11 billion U.S.
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The value of franchises is largely linked to the value of the stadium and real estate. But you’re typically not buying a stadium when you buy the team, the stadiums are usually owned by the local municipality. When these things go up for sale, they don’t sell for the Forbes value, they sell based on the profit, and NFL teams aren’t making enough of that to turn one in a reasonable amount of time if sold for that much. And the idea that you just turn around and sell it for more is risky as there’s no guarantee such increases in value continue and as these things increase in value the number of people who can purchase it decrease dramatically. It’s like owning a 40,000 sq. Ft. mansion.
 
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Agreed.
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Yeah they need a new stadium but it's a NFC East team (so in the same division as 3 of the biggest teams in America, including the most valued sports team on Earth) in a major market near the nation's capital. It's going to go for a freaking ludicrous sum of money.

Regretfully, this sale is going to net Dan Snyder a huge profit. On a positive note, Washington fans would finally be free.
 
Troy McClure

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KesselMania said:
The value of franchises is largely linked to the value of the stadium and real estate. But you’re typically not buying a stadium when you buy the team, the stadiums are usually owned by the local municipality. When these things go up for sale, they don’t sell for the Forbes value, they sell based on the profit, and NFL teams aren’t making enough of that to turn one in a reasonable amount of time if sold for that much. And the idea that you just turn around and sell it for more is risky as there’s no guarantee such increases in value continue and as these things increase in value the number of people who can purchase it decrease dramatically. It’s like owning a 40,000 sq. Ft. mansion.
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Your problem here is your thinking is too limited. This is not at all like an oversized home or a gemstone. And the value is not linked to stadiums and real estate. NFL ownership is more than financial statements. NFL ownership brings fame and power.

And the very day the NFL franchise values reach a point where there are no more American billionaires able to individually afford the majority stake in a team is the day the owners vote to change the rules about who can become an owner. Risk? Nonsense.
 
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Yes, the value of the teams are linked to the stadiums and real estate values. Just like any corporation.

Owning an NFL team doesn't bring fame and power, the people who own these things are already well connected and uber wealthy and powerful. At best it's a boys club for the extremely rich, and a show of wealth, like having a 40,000 sq. ft. mansion.
 
Troy McClure

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KesselMania said:
Yes, the value of the teams are linked to the stadiums and real estate values. Just like any corporation.

Owning an NFL team doesn't bring fame and power, the people who own these things are already well connected and uber wealthy and powerful. At best it's a boys club for the extremely rich, and a show of wealth, like having a 40,000 sq. ft. mansion.
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It's an interesting space you occupy to declare NFL teams to be worth less than what people are willing to pay for one and then dismissing every sale for those a huge number as some sort of exception.
 
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KesselMania said:
Yes, the value of the teams are linked to the stadiums and real estate values. Just like any corporation.

Owning an NFL team doesn't bring fame and power, the people who own these things are already well connected and uber wealthy and powerful. At best it's a boys club for the extremely rich, and a show of wealth, like having a 40,000 sq. ft. mansion.
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If it wasn't a sign of status and power then why has Donald Trump tried so many times to join the club?
 
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Status symbols are just that, they're there to impress and show off that you've made it. Owning an NFL team wouldn't give Bezos more power and fame than he already has, it's just a notch on the belt.

The NFL has a long standing beef with Trump going back to the 80s, which is mostly why I'd find it humorous if Snyder sold to him

Troy McClure said:
It's an interesting space you occupy to declare NFL teams to be worth less than what people are willing to pay for one and then dismissing every sale for those a huge number as some sort of exception.
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No, I'm arguing the Forbes valuation =/= sale price
 

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It's been stated in the past that Trump's personal finances are somewhat murky compared to other incredibly wealthy individuals. If that's still the case, his net worth may be nowhere close to those estimates of $3 billion being bandied about. He might not even be worth $1 billion.

It doesn't matter anyways as he would never be approved as an owner.
 
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Invoking a man getting shot as a reason they shouldn’t be held accountable.

get this f***ing guy out of the league.

he’s a disgrace.
 
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