Daniel & Henrik Sedin Thread - Part III (MOD Notice Post # 53)

[luongo321]

A few days ago I heard Turn It Up by Timeflies. First time I've ever heard of them, but I liked it.

Turning it up is definitely what the Sedins have been doing lately.

 

[IntangiBo]

A few days ago I heard Turn It Up by Timeflies. First time I've ever heard of them, but I liked it.

Turning it up is definitely what the Sedins have been doing lately.

Music for guys not old enough to shave.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I'll leave this here.

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[luongo321]

Music for guys not old enough to shave.

My beard doesn't care what music I listen to.

 

[dave babych returns]

An open letter

Dearest Pauser,

I disagree strongly with your argument that players who almost never play apart can be judged based on their production in that scenario, this is even more problematic when this questionable statistic compared to other players who play apart much more frequently (at the very least, judging all players by their rate of production in this scenario would correct for differences in usage).

I feel that your "unique points" approach to evaluation is, at best, misguided.

I can easily provide you with figures that back up this approach in even strength situations (by directly comparing production togther/apart to icetime together/apart), and if you were interested in an open and honest discussion of the subject I might consider taking the time to compile similar numbers for the powerplay to compare the Sedins to one (1) other notable pair of top NHL forwards.

(Frankly the Sedins' near 100% overlap in powerplay ice time makes this latter exercise purely academic, but, if you feel it would increase your understanding of the pitfalls of your current evaluation method, I would be happy to help out.)

If you've no interest in pursuing this discusion on these terms (or similarly honest and productive ones) then I will simply leave my objections here for the general good of the message board.

Respectfully yours,

Dave

 

[lousy]

An open letter

Dearest Pauser,

I disagree strongly with your argument that players who almost never play apart can be judged based on their production in that scenario, this is even more problematic when this questionable statistic compared to other players who play apart much more frequently (at the very least, judging all players by their rate of production in this scenario would correct for differences in usage).

I feel that your "unique points" approach to evaluation is, at best, misguided.

I can easily provide you with figures that back up this approach in even strength situations (by directly comparing production togther/apart to icetime together/apart), and if you were interested in an open and honest discussion of the subject I might consider taking the time to compile similar numbers for the powerplay to compare the Sedins to one (1) other notable pair of top NHL forwards.

(Frankly the Sedins' near 100% overlap in powerplay ice time makes this latter exercise purely academic, but, if you feel it would increase your understanding of the pitfalls of your current evaluation method, I would be happy to help out.)

If you've no interest in pursuing this discusion on these terms (or similarly honest and productive ones) then I will simply leave my objections here for the general good of the message board.

Respectfully yours,

Dave

Dear Pauser,

The Sedins are done? Downward spiral? Maybe 50 points?

The canucks are a bottom 5 team in the nhl this year?

Your analysis of this team is a little (way) off. Please re calibrate.

 

[luongo321]

I'd love to play the Flames in the first round. I know the Sedins would kick the piss out of them. I'd love to see Johnny hookey's tears.

 

[BTL]

So that Daniel Sedin...

 

[BTL]

Well that shut me up. Danny the play maker on both those

 

[arttk]

Well that shut me up. Danny the play maker on both those

You should do that every game.

 

[BTL]

It was actually relieving to see Danny making plays tonight. He had a few bad turn overs but actually responded with energy and looked hungry the whole night. Hank and him now both tied with 60 on the season.

 

[David71]

danny should be on the 2nd line and be the playmaker between vrby and bonino or whomever

 

[Captain Bowie]

Daniel Sedin has more assists than Henrik. This hasn't happened in a full season since 03/04!

 

[IntangiBo]

Your analysis of this team is a little (way) off. Please re calibrate.

Solar flares could be part of the problem.

 

[Samzilla]

Daniel Sedin has more assists than Henrik. This hasn't happened in a full season since 03/04!

well if daniel's declining...and yet he's producing more assists then henrik, then that must mean henrik's declining...which means they're both scrubs!

 

[HankNDank]

So With Daniel getting 6 points in his last 4 games to Henrik's 2 points over the same span, Daniel now leads the twins in scoring by 2 points. Only 4 times has Daniel out produced Henrik. Gone are the days of perennial 30+ goal seasons, but he is still helping row the boat for sure.

 

[me2]

So With Daniel getting 6 points in his last 4 games to Henrik's 2 points over the same span, Daniel now leads the twins in scoring by 2 points. Only 4 times has Daniel out produced Henrik. Gone are the days of perennial 30+ goal seasons, but he is still helping row the boat for sure.

In Daniel's defense he's been out of lineup through injury a lot more.

 

[a Fool]

well if daniel's declining...and yet he's producing more assists then henrik, then that must mean henrik's declining...which means they're both scrubs!

You could say they are both uniquely declining.

 

[Proto]

Daniel has been great this year, while Henrik has truly floundered. They're just not the same player anymore. Henrik, once the best playmaker in hockey, now can't even out-playmake Daniel.

It's starting to look like maybe Daniel gets in the HOF and Henrik doesn't. That would be the right call. There's just too great a separation between the two

 

[IntangiBo]

You could say they are both uniquely declining.

Some people wouldn't say there is anything unique.

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

lol@the myth that Henrik was somehow better than Daniel.

 

[luongo321]

lol@the myth that Henrik was somehow better than Daniel.

I believe that they are undergoing a pole shift. Daniel used to score more and now they are about even. I expect Henrik to start slowly start outscoring Daniel in the next few years.

Imagine if they had identical stats by the time they retired? Yes, I know, a bit farfetched.

 

[CRDragon]

Who knows, they could just have switched sweaters.

 

[TheWanderer]

Who knows, they could just have switched sweaters.

I seriously wonder if they do this sometimes. Anyone can claim they know the difference between the two, but who says it's not just a small adjustment to the haircut, or the shave?

 

[Brock Boeser]

Heh. Daniel is 1 point behind Stammer and Giroux who are 10 and 9 in scoring. That bum.