OT: Covid-19 (Part 36) Closing Time

[dinodebino]

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if they're making "insulting offers" to nurses, wonder what kind of offers the PAB, kitchen employees, maintenance, various admin agents, cleaning, etc will receive.

probably the kind of offer that makes you think "time to look for a new job".

Negos in this province have always been tricky.

 

[dinodebino]

Prolembs with PAB-NURSE are not the salary...

is the schedule .... forced overtime after forced overtime etc...

The structure is absolutelty wrong. everybody worh 7-14 or 8-14 or 4-14...

an absolute mess all-around... and most of them wanna work 4 days a work and not 5...

Honeslty they gave them way too much 10 years ago and now they are used to it and changing to a normal 37.5h weekly schedule is a nightmare...

Going private = flexible schedule and they pay an absurd rate but in 1-2 years all those Agency will fall after COVID...

So the CSN is using it as an argument and leaking stuff to press to pressure the Government and get a good reputation in public...

truly a shanmbolic mess.

One easy solution to all of this : abolish the liberal-created private sector system. You're a nurse? You work for the govmnt. It's easy, really.

Liberals f***ed it up by helping friends make money with the system. Un chum s't'un chum!

Break it all up. And you will automatically get rid of the OT fallacy. You'll have more people in the system and you will save money too!

 

[King Makar19]

One easy solution to all of this : abolish the liberal-created private sector system. You're a nurse? You work for the govmnt. It's easy, really.

Liberals f***ed it up by helping friends make money with the system. Un chum s't'un chum!

Break it all up. And you will automatically get rid of the OT fallacy. You'll have more people in the system and you will save money too!

Yes and no... Private CHSLD and RPA still need some nurses and stuff...

Maybe create a system where you can choose and learn the craft of being a PAB-Auxiliairy and Nurse in a Private place and after 5 years you have to make the switch to the Public on an EQUIVALENT SHIFT


NO MORE AGENCY. Right now they could pay NURSE 90$ an hour and the problem wouldn't change.

 

[dinodebino]

Yes and no... Private CHSLD and RPA still need some nurses and stuff...

Maybe create a system where you can choose and learn the craft of being a PAB-Auxiliairy and Nurse in a Private place and after 5 years you have to make the switch to the Public on an EQUIVALENT SHIFT


NO MORE AGENCY. Right now they could pay NURSE 90$ an hour and the problem wouldn't change.

Yeah, my bad, I was talking about the agencies.

 

[Kriss E]

Hey, where are you now? Weren't you in HK last year at the same time?

I was in HK from 2016-2019...then moved to Saudi Arabia. Came here last winter to take care of visa paper but covid hit and borders shut before I could complete process. Worked remotely for a bit but after a while they needed a General Manager on site so they had to hire a new one. Kept me on furlough but I couldn't wait anymore come fall. Had to recycle myself and now working as a sales rep for Audi, which isn't so bad but sucks to have lost my career and have to start from scratch. Worked there for about 3 weeks and then we went into lockdown..lol. Reopened today, good to see people but man I miss my career.
Add insult to injury, broke up with my gf who lives in Hong Kong because our plans got destroyed with Covid. She staying there, I'm here...can't really travel..to make it all worse, nearly impossible to meet someone new these days.
Life is very near garbage level right now.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

I was in HK from 2016-2019...then moved to Saudi Arabia. Came here last winter to take care of visa paper but covid hit and borders shut before I could complete process. Worked remotely for a bit but after a while they needed a General Manager on site so they had to hire a new one. Kept me on furlough but I couldn't wait anymore come fall. Had to recycle myself and now working as a sales rep for Audi, which isn't so bad but sucks to have lost my career and have to start from scratch. Worked there for about 3 weeks and then we went into lockdown..lol. Reopened today, good to see people but man I miss my career.
Add insult to injury, broke up with my gf who lives in Hong Kong because our plans got destroyed with Covid. She staying there, I'm here...can't really travel..to make it all worse, nearly impossible to meet someone new these days.
Life is very near garbage level right now.

ah man, sorry to hear about the GF Kriss

 

[dinodebino]

I was in HK from 2016-2019...then moved to Saudi Arabia. Came here last winter to take care of visa paper but covid hit and borders shut before I could complete process. Worked remotely for a bit but after a while they needed a General Manager on site so they had to hire a new one. Kept me on furlough but I couldn't wait anymore come fall. Had to recycle myself and now working as a sales rep for Audi, which isn't so bad but sucks to have lost my career and have to start from scratch. Worked there for about 3 weeks and then we went into lockdown..lol. Reopened today, good to see people but man I miss my career.
Add insult to injury, broke up with my gf who lives in Hong Kong because our plans got destroyed with Covid. She staying there, I'm here...can't really travel..to make it all worse, nearly impossible to meet someone new these days.
Life is very near garbage level right now.

Jesus F'in Christ....man, nothing to add. Except : keep up the fight (I know, sounds shitty, but what else to say?). Cheers, man.

 

[Kriss E]

ah man, sorry to hear about the GF Kriss

Never know what the future holds, but ya..sucks. Thanks though.

 

[Kriss E]

Jesus F'in Christ....man, nothing to add. Except : keep up the fight (I know, sounds shitty, but what else to say?). Cheers, man.

Yup..it is what it is. Small light at the end of the tunnel, might be able to get back into my career for a company in Toronto, but still have to wait 3-6 months to see if what they're working on goes according to plan.

 

[ECWHSWI]

Negos in this province have always been tricky.

except this time it feels like between fight of flee, healthcare workers will choose to flee.

 

[ECWHSWI]

One easy solution to all of this : abolish the liberal-created private sector system. You're a nurse? You work for the govmnt. It's easy, really.

Liberals f***ed it up by helping friends make money with the system. Un chum s't'un chum!

Break it all up. And you will automatically get rid of the OT fallacy. You'll have more people in the system and you will save money too!

if it were to happen, lots of them would just quit. same with PAB.

anyway, the main problem is not schedule or salary, it's always the same : QC does not care one bit about it's workers, govt couldnt even be bothered faking it.

 

[dinodebino]

Yup..it is what it is. Small light at the end of the tunnel, might be able to get back into my career for a company in Toronto, but still have to wait 3-6 months to see if what they're working on goes according to plan.

Hope you get it.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

I was in HK from 2016-2019...then moved to Saudi Arabia. Came here last winter to take care of visa paper but covid hit and borders shut before I could complete process. Worked remotely for a bit but after a while they needed a General Manager on site so they had to hire a new one. Kept me on furlough but I couldn't wait anymore come fall. Had to recycle myself and now working as a sales rep for Audi, which isn't so bad but sucks to have lost my career and have to start from scratch. Worked there for about 3 weeks and then we went into lockdown..lol. Reopened today, good to see people but man I miss my career.
Add insult to injury, broke up with my gf who lives in Hong Kong because our plans got destroyed with Covid. She staying there, I'm here...can't really travel..to make it all worse, nearly impossible to meet someone new these days.
Life is very near garbage level right now.

For what its worth, your career isn't over...just postponed.

I got side tracked on my career a few years back for things out of my control. It happens. I'm sure that IF you want to return in your field there will be a door open for you when things cool off.

 

[Kriss E]

For what its worth, your career isn't over...just postponed.

I got side tracked on my career a few years back for things out of my control. It happens. I'm sure that IF you want to return in your field there will be a door open for you when things cool off.

Let's hope you're right mate, thanks.

 

[Milhouse40]

Like 6 month too late

N95 now mandatory is hot spot.

 

[CrAzYNiNe]

Like 6 month too late

N95 now mandatory is hot spot.

Availability? These items have long been back ordered. Pointless in making something mandatory without being able to procure them. Such a huge problem in Canada with our inability to produce our own supplies. I hope we have learned something and recognize a large need and we stop looking for short cuts.

 

[waffledave]

How is it if you need to go to the ER? COVID risk high?

 

[Kriss E]

Like 6 month too late

N95 now mandatory is hot spot.

I thought this was already mandatory for health workers...How was it not?..

 

[Milhouse40]

Availability? These items have long been back ordered. Pointless in making something mandatory without being able to procure them. Such a huge problem in Canada with our inability to produce our own supplies. I hope we have learned something and recognize a large need and we stop looking for short cuts.

We have them.....we don't have as much as we should or we wanted, but we got some.
The reserve was about 1.4 million masks in December.

 

[CrAzYNiNe]

We have them.....we don't have as much as we should or we wanted, but we got some.
The reserve was about 1.4 million masks in December.

You said 6 months too late. If none were available 6 months ago, what did you think could have been done? Is that enough for healthcare workers all over canada? How often do they need to be changed? If Canada doesn't have a steady supply to manufacture these items, what do you do when they run out?

 

[GoodKiwi]

Speaking of gf crisis...

Mine was supposed to fly up here last May for my birthday and stay a few weeks. Obviously didn't happen. Last fall I actually flew to St. Louis to formally break up. It wasn't my idea and there's more to the story I'm not willing to share at this point (COVID related). Was very tough for me.

Also all alone now.

 

[Milhouse40]

You said 6 months too late. If none were available 6 months ago, what did you think could have been done? Is that enough for healthcare workers all over canada? How often do they need to be changed? If Canada doesn't have a steady supply to manufacture these items, what do you do when they run out?

That was the reserve for Quebec only.
I didn't expect them to be available 6 months ago, but since the start of the 2nd wave....of course.

I understand we don't have a chain of supply but one part of those N95 are made in Canada and there's a difference between Canada where wearing a N95 masks is almost a crime even in healthcare facilities and in the US where normal citizen have access to them daily.

 

[Lshap]

How is it if you need to go to the ER? COVID risk high?

Most hospitals triage Covid patients to another section. Besides, the actual risk of whatever brought you to the ER is probably greater than the hypothetical risk of Covid.

 

[Kriss E]

Speaking of gf crisis...

Mine was supposed to fly up here last May for my birthday and stay a few weeks. Obviously didn't happen. Last fall I actually flew to St. Louis to formally break up. It wasn't my idea and there's more to the story I'm not willing to share at this point (COVID related). Was very tough for me.

Also all alone now.

Feel you bud..such a shit time to be single. The curfew pretty much took away any type of possible fun for me.

 

[OnTheRun]

That was the reserve for Quebec only.
I didn't expect them to be available 6 months ago, but since the start of the 2nd wave....of course.

I understand we don't have a chain of supply but one part of those N95 are made in Canada and there's a difference between Canada where wearing a N95 masks is almost a crime even in healthcare facilities and in the US where normal citizen have access to them daily.

They are sitting on millions of N99 respirators made in Canada, reusable to boot. It can't be used because the NIOSH was closed during most of the pandemic and they couldn't get the certification for it. Now the NIOSH is back in action but have a huge backlog so the masks are still collecting dust in a warehouse somewhere.

The irony is the decided to be proactive with domestic production for once, but still kind of failed, because they rely on a foreign agency for certification.