OT: Covid-19 (Part 34) It's beginning to look a lot like... (Mod warning #439)

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waffledave

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I've mentioned this lady friend of mine who's been a hardline denier since day-one. She and I have reached a detente where she's careful about what she says and I back off calling her theories what I'd like to call them. But then there are her friends. A few months ago I sat in one of her friend's apartments and listened to this friend earnestly explain how the virus was man-made... the goal was to reset the world so that Bill Gates could implant microchips and control everyone through vaccinations... something something lizard people and ancient prophecies. Hospitals were really empty and people hadn't died -- it was all part of the media plot to create fear. Seriously. I felt like a walked off the transporter pad and saw Spock with a beard. This lady -- who's very nice otherwise -- was dead serious about all of this.

On the one hand, I was a guest at her place and didn't want to insult anyone. On the other hand, she was batshit crazy. I politely tap-danced about how nice it is to believe something so deeply and the importance of knowing the difference between a belief and a fact. I asked where I could find evidence of all this stuff she mentioned. Silly me. Apparently, all the proof was right there through the YouTube experts she follows, and of course the energy she accesses through the universe and her ancestors. Okay then....

A few days later my friend called me up and blasted me for being so arrogant. I snapped back that if she wanted to hang out with people who nodded their heads at every whack job theory without questioning anything, join a freakin cult. It's calmed down since, and to be fair, she and her friends are mostly respectful when they're out among other people. But this is the mindset of some people -- they have no interest in established sources or scientific facts. It's all about what they feel.

It's mental illness, sad to say. A few years from now we'll have a proper name for it, but this is a new form of mental illness being brought out by social media and YouTube shit. We never had disinformation at this scale. Just like how certain drugs can trigger latent schizophrenia in some people, I sincerely believe having access and time to binge this sort of sick conspiracy crap is triggering some kind of latent mental disease in some people.

It is not normal to just believe this stuff. It's a mental disease. Their brains are broken and unable to perceive reality properly. Their grasp on reality is warped.

I hope one day we can find the right medications to help these people.
 
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This is my biggest worry with mutations and it seems to becoming real in the UK which means we will be facing the same thing in a few weeks as the UK strain starts to make its way around the population here.

Covid wards 'full of children' for first time in pandemic, warn nurses

Maybe people will start believing the science if kids start getting hospitalized.

They won't. They are fundamentally broken people. The people in denial need medical intervention but they won't get it because doctors have their hands full.
 

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This is my biggest worry with mutations and it seems to becoming real in the UK which means we will be facing the same thing in a few weeks as the UK strain starts to make its way around the population here.

Covid wards 'full of children' for first time in pandemic, warn nurses

Maybe people will start believing the science if kids start getting hospitalized.

That is indeed, very very troubling.

The silver lining of the original strain was that very few hospitalizations or deaths were happening in younger people. If the new strain has the ability to take out children and the working class, you now also completely decimating the economy.

I can’t help but feel it’s about to get a whole lot uglier.
 

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750K is ridiculous. Nobody will get fined as much. Most people can't afford a 750K mortage spread over 40 years. You could easily argue your way out of this in court.
They should make the fines affordable, like 5-10K.

Well there's a jail sentence if they can't pay the fine. It's supposed to be a felony but they aren't fining or charging people for breaking quarantine. So why would we expect people to follow the law?

Force people to ruin their lives for breaking quarantine. Actions have consequences. These people know better. They do it because they don't give a shit about others and know nothing will happen to them.
 

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Don't gloss over the best part...what's that about lizard people? Is BG a lizard? Do we get a choice of species?
I wasn't embellishing. Another guest mentioned wanting the vaccine when it came out, and this lady knelt next to him, put her hands on his knees and launched into that intense rant about Bill Gates and lizards. It was 12 minutes of surreal lunacy. The poor guy politely listened (while probably enjoying having her face close to his), another lady remained quiet, my friend was wide-eyed nodding her head, and I sat there with my teeth gritted, taking deep breaths through my nose.

It's one of those intensely weird moments of my life that will become polished into a lifelong anecdote.
 
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I wasn't embellishing. Another guest mentioned wanting the vaccine when it came out, and this lady knelt next to him, put her hands on his knees and launched into that intense rant about Bill Gates and lizards. It was 12 minutes of surreal lunacy. The poor guy politely listened (while probably enjoying having her face close to his), another lady remained quiet, my friend was wide-eyed nodding her head, and I sat there with my teeth gritted, taking deep breaths through my nose.

It's one of those intensely weird moments of my life that will become polished into a lifelong anecdote.

This sounds like a scene out of a movie. :laugh:
 

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Don't gloss over the best part...what's that about lizard people? Is BG a lizard? Do we get a choice of species?

Shape-shifting reptilian from outer space that gain position of power on Earth to execute their plot to crush humanity. Dunno if they consider Bill to be one or just a collaborator, but I know Canada's head of the state is supposed to be one...
 
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I wasn't embellishing. Another guest mentioned wanting the vaccine when it came out, and this lady knelt next to him, put her hands on his knees and launched into that intense rant about Bill Gates and lizards. It was 12 minutes of surreal lunacy. The poor guy politely listened (while probably enjoying having her face close to his), another lady remained quiet, my friend was wide-eyed nodding her head, and I sat there with my teeth gritted, taking deep breaths through my nose.

It's one of those intensely weird moments of my life that will become polished into a lifelong anecdote.
Jeez, I could visualize the whole thing like a movie scene, a pandemic porno flick lol.
 

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This sounds like a scene out of a movie. :laugh:

To be honest, I have one uncle who has weird stories to tell all the time. So.. no surprise there. He won't kneel next to you to tell them though.
 

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It's mental illness, sad to say. A few years from now we'll have a proper name for it, but this is a new form of mental illness being brought out by social media and YouTube shit. We never had disinformation at this scale. Just like how certain drugs can trigger latent schizophrenia in some people, I sincerely believe having access and time to binge this sort of sick conspiracy crap is triggering some kind of latent mental disease in some people.

It is not normal to just believe this stuff. It's a mental disease. Their brains are broken and unable to perceive reality properly. Their grasp on reality is warped.

I hope one day we can find the right medications to help these people.
There's something to this. We've never been bombarded with so much social stimuli hitting us 24/7. Every URL offers belonging in some form -- you're either a valued customer, a fellow fan, a potential date, a loyal follower, or a soldier battling an enemy. We're hooked in so many ways by so many people on so many platforms... imagine what that flood of content is doing to our cognition. We can't process all of it, but being social creatures, we usually choose content that reinforces social belonging over cold facts. We'd rather share a delusion with a group than be alone with the truth.
 
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Truthfully as crazy as these theories are, these people aren’t gonna do shit. People act like they’re about to start fighting over the most ridiculous theories. Lockdowns are definitely helping people develop these theories, but once things open back up they’ll go back to gossiping about people and other mundane garbage that comes with normalcy.

Some of them yes, but you have to see something else in all of this.

The power to influence people is a dangerous power to have, already a political party is using it as their toy in the US and tons of people are being brainwashed into thinking lies from the pandemic and many other things. Other countries also saw that power.

It has been weaponized in my book.
With just a couple of people, tweets, youtube video and facebook post, it's enough for many to believe that the worst Pandemic in a 100 years isn't real, even on their death beds some still refuse to see the reality....imagine what they can do with a power like that.
 

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I wasn't embellishing. Another guest mentioned wanting the vaccine when it came out, and this lady knelt next to him, put her hands on his knees and launched into that intense rant about Bill Gates and lizards. It was 12 minutes of surreal lunacy. The poor guy politely listened (while probably enjoying having her face close to his), another lady remained quiet, my friend was wide-eyed nodding her head, and I sat there with my teeth gritted, taking deep breaths through my nose.

It's one of those intensely weird moments of my life that will become polished into a lifelong anecdote.

Maybe you should get out more (once we have herd immunity, of course).

You might need new friends. :sarcasm:
 

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She had a stripper pole in the middle of the living room.

I'm not kidding.

Did she perform any power moves while sporting 8 inch elevator shoes? Did she mention what the historical significance of the pole is? :laugh:

Going to her house sounds like a convenient way to avoid those exorbitant alcohol prices from the dingy places of business where stripper poles are normally found.
 
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Did she perform any power moves while sporting 8 inch elevator shoes? Did she mention what the historical significance of the pole is? :laugh:

Going to her house sounds like a convenient way to avoid those exorbitant alcohol prices from the dingy places of business where stripper poles are normally found.
You'll think I'm making this up, but she showed us a routine on the poll... wearing 8-inch heels. She talked my female friend and the other lady into trying some moves too. So I'm sitting there watching a lizard stripper and two other women contort their bodies in a group pole dance as a warmup to the anti-vax plandemic seance.

I barely believe this shit myself, but it really happened. :laugh:
 

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There's something to this. We've never been bombarded with so much social stimuli hitting us 24/7. Every URL offers belonging in some form -- you're either a valued customer, a fellow fan, a potential date, a loyal follower, or a soldier battling an enemy. We're hooked in so many ways by so many people on so many platforms... imagine what that flood of content is doing to our cognition. We can't process all of it, but being social creatures, we usually choose content that reinforces social belonging over cold facts. We'd rather share a delusion with a group than be alone with the truth.

That's why some of the biggest visionaries were social outcasts, because new insights are often revolutionary and contradictory to common beliefs.
 
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To be honest, I have one uncle who has weird stories to tell all the time. So.. no surprise there. He won't kneel next to you to tell them though.

Everyone has that one uncle who doesn't know when.

In the US, it's traditional to have those uncles without a filter, show up for Thanksgiving dinners.

This year, however, the pandemic prevented several cringe uncles from attending at relatives' homes.

Jimmy Kimmel came up with a "Rental Uncle" solution, where the same uncle features can be replicated with a stand-in. Comes with functional exhaust ports. :laugh:

It'll come up if you search "rental uncle" on YouTube.
 
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All the while politicians continue to travel the world, you think Jimmy & Timmy are going to listen now?

:laugh:
Yes they will. Politicians are allowed to travel like everyone else. It's discouraged but not forbidden, why would people not isolate because some politicians traveled?
 
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