COVID-19/Coronavirus Talk - Part II

[Ranksu]

Shame, but it's bad to be right about this case.

Old song, but if we had problems in Finland and had to postponed hockey games and even cancelled for few weeks. Seeing this in NHL isnt shock at all.

You guys havent be that good with covid. Only solution for NHL is get players vaccinated asap and then run games. It might be only solution for NHL.

In Finland even athletics dont have VIP treatment, but NA everything is possible just show the money.


NHL.com Media Site

 

[Ranksu]

So daily new cases in usa over 300k. Deaths almost 400k. So much of predictions of everything will be ok when looking back some posts.

Should hurry up with vaccine ppl. Hope you guys stay safe.

Use mask!

 

[ort]

Everyone going on about how deaths are exaggerated and the numbers are a lie...

2020 was the single deadliest year in American history. Deaths in 2020 were up 15% over 2019.

This isn't a hoax. Please act responsibly and remember that we are all in this together.

 

[Ranksu]

Everyone going on about how deaths are exaggerated and the numbers are a lie...

2020 was the single deadliest year in American history. Deaths in 2020 were up 15% over 2019.

This isn't a hoax. Please act responsibly and remember that we are all in this together.

Who is saying covid is hoax?

 

[Celtic Note]

Who is saying covid is hoax?

Plenty of Americans still believe it isn’t a big deal

 

[Celtic Note]

Everyone going on about how deaths are exaggerated and the numbers are a lie...

2020 was the single deadliest year in American history. Deaths in 2020 were up 15% over 2019.

This isn't a hoax. Please act responsibly and remember that we are all in this together.

In case anyone asks for a link:
US deaths in 2020 top 3 million, by far most ever counted

 

[Thallis]

Who is saying covid is hoax?

Literally people on this board

 

[Ranksu]

Literally people on this board

Wait a minute. Blues members?

 

[Stlblue50]

US drug overdoses increased almost 20% from the previous 12 month reporting period of June 2018 through May 2019. Making it the highest overdose rate in a 12 month period in US history.

The overdose rate increased 20% with only 2 and half months of data released during the lockdown!!! I’ve searched many different sources and it appears they have not released the data from June-December 2020. It will be extremely disturbing I promise you.

Want to talk about the suicide rate or the endless harm that can’t be tracked by data? How about record increase of anti depressant prescriptions? Wake the F up!!!

 

[Stlblue50]

Oh yeah and how about that record unemployment rate that happened overnight when there was a record high employment rate! But as long as the elderly can live an extra few years then it’s all worth it and justifies my snobby/preaching stance

 

[tfriede2]

So, my parents got the vaccine at a Walgreens on Illinois side this week - they’re part of the “B” group (seniors). That Walgreens began distributing the vaccine to the B group because they were finished with distributing to the A group. Governor Pritzker then told Walgreens to stop distributing to the B group and wait until Monday because that wasn’t fair that some seniors were able to get the vaccine before others. This is possibly one of the dumbest and incompetent things I’ve ever heard of.

 

[EastonBlues22]

Oh yeah and how about that record unemployment rate that happened overnight when there was a record high employment rate! But as long as the elderly can live an extra few years then it’s all worth it and justifies my snobby/preaching stance

Yeah, it's a crisis. There's going to be fallout from this no matter what we do. That said, I'd say the bolded is quite a misrepresentation of what was/is at stake on the other side of the coin.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

So, my parents got the vaccine at a Walgreens on Illinois side this week - they’re part of the “B” group (seniors). That Walgreens began distributing the vaccine to the B group because they were finished with distributing to the A group. Governor Pritzker then told Walgreens to stop distributing to the B group and wait until Monday because that wasn’t fair that some seniors were able to get the vaccine before others. This is possibly one of the dumbest and incompetent things I’ve ever heard of.

It’s idiotic. It’s more than idiotic, and it provokes anger when people in power are directing their power in such a careless fashion.

Normally I roll my eyes a bit when Texas (where I live) flexes it’s independent streak, but I fully supported their decision to deliver the vaccine in their own priority rather than strictly following the CDC. It wasn’t a huge departure, but it showed some independent thought and an effort to actually represent the interests of their population rather than preening for political visibility. There are different circumstances in different places.

 

[brokeu91]

I just got my second COVID vaccine on Wednesday. On Thursday I had a fever and felt like I was hit by a truck. By Friday I was fine. Beats getting COVID though

 

[Ranksu]

I just got my second COVID vaccine on Wednesday. On Thursday I had a fever and felt like I was hit by a truck. By Friday I was fine. Beats getting COVID though

I'll get my vaccine in next week at monday. Long distances have been problematic to deliver vaccines, especially Pfizer. First we were told our unite would get vaccine at 11th of January so we are 2 weeks delay.

 

[Frenzy31]

My issue with Covid is the data. To say it is being manipulated.....

CDC - stopped counting Flu cases in October. They all count as Covid now. WTF. There is no flu this year????

Sorry, but we need real numbers. The vaccine may not even prevent Covid so much as lessen the symptoms, but the media seems to gloss over this.

I got my first dose a week ago. But it may not last beyond May. Then what.

You want to get everyone or the majority to buy in, then we need transparency.

 

[brokeu91]

My issue with Covid is the data. To say it is being manipulated.....

CDC - stopped counting Flu cases in October. They all count as Covid now. WTF. There is no flu this year????

Sorry, but we need real numbers. The vaccine may not even prevent Covid so much as lessen the symptoms, but the media seems to gloss over this.

I got my first dose a week ago. But it may not last beyond May. Then what.

You want to get everyone or the majority to buy in, then we need transparency.

The CDC is NOT counting influenza cases as covid. The fact is that because of the precautions we’re taking for covid the rate of influenza has plummeted.

There is definitely data to support that the vaccine prevents infections at a rate of around 95% two weeks after your second vaccination. Also two weeks after the second vaccine no one acquired a serious infection requiring hospitalization. However, only the Astro Zeneca vaccine was studied to determine if it prevented spreading (which it did). Presumably the Pfizer and Moderna do as well, but they have not been studied in that way.

We know these vaccines are effective for at least 6 months. They are probably effective much longer than that but because they’re so new, they literally do not have enough data collected long enough to know. We may require another booster in a year. We have no idea. But if we can get 80-90% of the population vaccinated, then we can eliminate this from human spread. That will be the uphill battle.

 

[tfriede2]

My issue with Covid is the data. To say it is being manipulated.....

CDC - stopped counting Flu cases in October. They all count as Covid now. WTF. There is no flu this year????

Sorry, but we need real numbers. The vaccine may not even prevent Covid so much as lessen the symptoms, but the media seems to gloss over this.

I got my first dose a week ago. But it may not last beyond May. Then what.

You want to get everyone or the majority to buy in, then we need transparency.

1. Where did you read that flu cases are no longer being reported and that they’re being counted as Covid, and did you check with the cdc website to verify that claim? Go to the source, don’t believe everything you read.

2. What’s your source with respect to the vaccine not preventing Covid? I’m actually curious on this one.

 

[occy30]

Anyone know where to find this mask? I've been looking all pandemic for this exact style!!!

 

[Mike Liut]

Flu particulates are 10,000 times smaller than the holes in these masks.

 

[Ranksu]

Flu particulates are 10,000 times smaller than the holes in these masks.

Yeah. Masks are fake dont use those.

 

[brokeu91]

Flu particulates are 10,000 times smaller than the holes in these masks.

True, but the amount of viruses you need to be in contact with in order to cause an actual infection can only be spread by droplets. It takes much more than one single virus to cause an infection. It requires between 1-8 thousand viruses to cause infection in 50% of individuals (it depends on the strain). So if droplets are decreased by the masks then the spread of infection would as well. This is being confirmed by how much lower the rates of influenza have been this year, compared to other years.

 

[Mike Liut]

True, but the amount of viruses you need to be in contact with in order to cause an actual infection can only be spread by droplets. It takes much more than one single virus to cause an infection. It requires between 1-8 thousand viruses to cause infection in 50% of individuals (it depends on the strain). So if droplets are decreased by the masks then the spread of infection would as well. This is being confirmed by how much lower the rates of influenza have been this year, compared to other years.

Or they are classifying all flu’s as Covid

 

[EastonBlues22]

Perhaps the biggest thing I hate about social media is the ease with which utter BS can spread and take root in the general public's consciousness.

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

Perhaps the biggest thing I hate about social media is the ease with which utter BS can spread and take root in the general public's consciousness.

You mean not everyone on the internet has a PhD like I’ve been led to believe?