Could Toronto Wind Up With Two 1st Round Picks?

[kb]

Some saying Freddy worth a 2nd. I understand CBJ want to shed dollars but how does a 2nd get you Savard and Korpisalo ?

They can dump Savard and Korpisalo for virtually nothing and sign a $1M backup and they would be further ahead. What am I missing ??

You are missing the fact that Freddy is still a great goalie, and they are saving $5.2 million in cash.

 

[thusk]

You are missing the fact that Freddy is still a great goalie, and they are saving $5.2 million in cash.

A lot of people think korpisalo is a great goalie because of last playoff run... But korpisalo is not a good proven #1 goalie, korpisalo is a kind of martin Jones, Jake Allen, cam Talbot who also already had pretty good playoff before..

it's a terrible error to trade andersen for korpisalo and get same kind of trouble than edmonton, calgary, sj in front the net

 

[Kangal]

A combination of Freddie, Dermott and Johnson/Kerfoot would probably get you a 1st round pick plus hopefully other picks and/or assets and would free up salary cap for free agents. Pietrangelo would be welcomed on a 4 year max at around $8 million per

 

[kb]

A combination of Freddie, Dermott and Johnson/Kerfoot would probably get you a 1st round pick plus hopefully other picks and/or assets and would free up salary cap for free agents. Pietrangelo would be welcomed on a 4 year max at around $8 million per

So that's a vote against Pietrangelo. He's getting at least 7 years, and minimum of $8.5-$9 million per.

 

[RantanenRavin]

Who was the last goalie that got traded that went for really good value?

The most recent one I can think of was Schneider for Horvat's pick.

Anything more recent? Seems like goalies just don't attract tons of value around the league.

Well, the leafs paid a (late) first and a second for Andersen in the first place. So there's that.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

The core is all young, and signed long-term.

That means the team has to be in "win-now" mode, IMO.

Age doesnt matter. Salary Cap matters.

The core commands so much money we are a win now team.

That doesnt play win now.

We should have bridged Marner and Nylander.

I have no concerns paying for good playoff performances.

 

[kb]

Age doesnt matter. Salary Cap matters.

The core commands so much money we are a win now team.

That doesnt play win now.

We should have bridged Marner and Nylander.

I have no concerns paying for good playoff performances.

Bridging would have been a huge mistake. Flat cap for a few more years, and then both come due for huge raises? Good luck with that.

In retrospect and with the benefit of hindsight, it was always the right move.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Bridging was bad

I'll be signing Marner to 8.5 when my bridge deal comes due for as long as I want.

Dubas signed deals when players were at their max cap hit.

Year 1 looks bad on the deal so far.

 

[darrylsittler27]

So that's a vote against Pietrangelo. He's getting at least 7 years, and minimum of $8.5-$9 million per.

No thanks. We should have learned our lesson with Marleau and soon Tavares will be an 11 million ,60 pt center.

 

[kb]

No thanks. We should have learned our lesson with Marleau and soon Tavares will be an 11 million ,60 pt center.

It would suck to have a Norris calibre RD on the team.
Nothing pointing at that for Tavares so far.

 

[Tak7]

Age doesnt matter. Salary Cap matters.

The core commands so much money we are a win now team.

That doesnt play win now.

We should have bridged Marner and Nylander.

I have no concerns paying for good playoff performances.

Bridging during a flat cap pandemic. Lol.

Also - "good playoff performers". You can grow into a good playoff performer.

They are in win now mode.

 

[I am Canadian]

Johnsson + 44th for 18th overall I would consider

Andersen for a 1st would be amazing.

I think Kerfoot + Johnsson are worth about a 2nd each. If we could convert Johnsson into a top 4 RHD with minimum adds from our side it would be amazing.

We do need to draft with our 15th overall, we need a constant supply of young top end players, especially if we sign Pietro

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Bridging during a flat cap pandemic. Lol.

Also - "good playoff performers". You can grow into a good playoff performer.

They are in win now mode.

So the Leafs are in Win Now mode, and are "learning and finding out" if they are good playoff performers ?

Wonderful.

 

[Tak7]

So the Leafs are in Win Now mode, and are "learning and finding out" if they are good playoff performers ?

They aren't "finding out".

Try reading my initial post again - they are providing their young core the opportunity to grow into winners.

No team that rebuilds just all of a sudden wakes up and becomes a winner over night.

Reality doesn't work that way.

Whether it's Tampa, or the Capitals, or virtually any number of examples - you need to learn how to win in the post-season. You just don't automatically have it happen.

 

[hotpaws]

They aren't "finding out".

Try reading my initial post again - they are providing their young core the opportunity to grow into winners.

No team that rebuilds just all of a sudden wakes up and becomes a winner over night.

Reality doesn't work that way.

Whether it's Tampa, or the Capitals, or virtually any number of examples - you need to learn how to win in the post-season. You just don't automatically have it happen.

the problem is we have 16m plus tied up in two 30 or older players and while i have no problem being patient while the kids learn to win we don't have an endless timeline before JT/Muzzin decline

also using the youth of a few players doesn't excuse not getting past Columbus