OT: Coronavirus XXXV: Y'all Got Any More of Them Vaccines?

[Sensmileletsgo]

My parents went down to Florida just after Christmas, they got on a list and are getting their first shot on Friday. So, seems being a snowbird is better than waiting it out here. They're in their late 60's so doubt they'd get it anytime soon in Canada. Also I win a $50 bet I made with a friend that they'd get it by Feb.

So do they hang around in Florida for 42 days or whatever until they get the second dose? Is that what the snowbirds are doing down there?

 

[Porkleaker]

So do they hang around in Florida for 42 days or whatever until they get the second dose? Is that what the snowbirds are doing down there?

They'll get the 2nd shot 21 days later there, and then they'll just enjoy themselves, they've got a condo down there and usually are gone after Thanksgiving until April.

 

[BlueCheeseWithWings]

Chinese manufactured product under performing, color me shocked lol

I would argue that the CPC have (allegedly) manufactured a near flawless product back in October-November 2019.

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

They'll get the 2nd shot 21 days later there, and then they'll just enjoy themselves, they've got a condo down there and usually are gone after Thanksgiving until April.

Good to hear. I know there’s some people that will have something negative to say, like how international travel is bad or whatever, but the more people to get the vaccine the better. And they’ll probably be enjoying themselves down there with the nice weather.

 

[Porkleaker]

Good to hear. I know there’s some people that will have something negative to say, like how international travel is bad or whatever, but the more people to get the vaccine the better. And they’ll probably be enjoying themselves down there with the nice weather.

travelling around and vacationing isn't the best, but if you're going somewhere for 5-6 months you're basically living there. And yep they're enjoying it even the beach is empty where they are, barely any other people down there. But now that you can get the vaccine there wouldn't be surprised to see a bunch of people flood there.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

THRM has been blowing up the last two days. from mid .30's to just a hair under .90 today when trading was halted. It's been rising on speculation they are ready to scale production as they have hired a mass production specialist. Some think that the company feels good about approval from FDA and HC so they are gearing up for mass production.

There's been rumours floating that the company has been working with the Ontario provincial government and that some airports have been trying out rapid antigen tests but not confirmed whether it's thermabrights or not.


I was holding 50,000 shares with an avg share price of .22, sold a block of 10,000 today to basically recoup my original investment and playing with house money now. Hopefully it's good news this week and she goes!

 

[Little Fury]

I would argue that the CPC have (allegedly) manufactured a near flawless product back in October-November 2019.

You could, but you'd be wrong.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

My parents went down to Florida just after Christmas, they got on a list and are getting their first shot on Friday. So, seems being a snowbird is better than waiting it out here. They're in their late 60's so doubt they'd get it anytime soon in Canada. Also I win a $50 bet I made with a friend that they'd get it by Feb.

Good on them but really shitty for those that may not get it because they did. I am considered an essential worker and could get my vaccine now but haven't pursued it yet so that those that are higher risk than I am can get theirs first.

 

[bucks_oil]

Pfizer is in default of their stated supply to Canada and several other nations. At a critical, critical juncture in the pandemic being at peak in Northern Hemisphere. In the winter flu season. Maybe they could have retooled production lines when they were awaiting approvals. Too cheap to take that risk?

They're making a killing, excuse pun.

As someone in the field... this is entirely baseless.

Pfizer stepped in and acquired a license to Biontech’s vaccine back in March. Prior to this, Pfizer had limited R&D and zero late stage experience with mRNA vaccines. They’ve done a fantastic job to have any substantive doses available... normally tech transfer of the manufacturing process can take 6 months to a year.

And of all of the companies, Pfizer took the greatest risk... they ran a 30k phase 3 just like moderna but they did it without Operation Warpspeed $$$.

Moreover the typical price of a new vaccine is $100+/ dose and Pfizer is selling this for $20ish... a price that would have been set before they had full visibility to the CoGs.

 

[Porkleaker]

Good on them but really shitty for those that may not get it because they did. I am considered an essential worker and could get my vaccine now but haven't pursued it yet so that those that are higher risk than I am can get theirs first.

Florida has plenty of vaccines, in fact over 40,000 people are overdue for their 2nd dose.

 

[Senor Catface]

I would argue that the CPC have (allegedly) manufactured a near flawless product back in October-November 2019.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Florida has plenty of vaccines, in fact over 40,000 people are overdue for their 2nd dose.

Fair enough, we are on the opposite end of the spectrum here.

 

[Porkleaker]

Fair enough, we are on the opposite end of the spectrum here.

Yeah, because we can't produce the vaccine, it'll just trickle in from other Countries and take more than a year. At least my friends in health care have gotten it.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

1,715,000 Albertans have been tested. but the total tests is 3,020,000. Meaning there have been over 1,300,000 retests.

Hopefully most of those retests being people that work in medical or emergency or carehome type places. But the reality is there are some that go for a test if they so much as get a sore throat, others I've heard of that go for tests because they just went to a party and want the "peace of mind" to get a test to see whether they have Covid or not. I would think Peace of mind could be had by not going to the party.

Anyway so 39% of the population has been tested. Pretty high number anyway. higher than the vast majority of jurisdictions in the world.

Heres the deal. People are not required to get tested and at times are advised not to go for testing unless they feel significant symptoms that are atypical from what they've had before. So that the number of those that have sought testing is kind of ridiculously high compared to the confirmed case numbers, 116,800. I mean this is like only 6% of people getting tested that have this, and those are the ones supposedly reporting unique and severe symptoms. Many others are advised to stay home or just ride it out and only seek services if their conditions worsen.

One always wonders how many people have had this. In Alberta I would put that figure at probably around half a million have had Covid-19. Maybe even a Million. Lots of studies that indicated actual numbers in population are multiples higher than confirmed positives. I think a safe bet is that at least 1/10 Albertans have had Covid-19. Its significant too because of the people that are exposed chronically, either through work, occupation, living situations, or that just don't follow rules in anyway, what would that population of people be. Would there be a Million people in Alberta that are at risk for contracting this? I think the majority of Albertans, and this is indicated in polls, routinely practice the safeguards, distancing, isolation that would make them less likely to Contract. What this could mean is that a type of population immunity is reached far before herd immunity, providign that a significant part of the pop continues to follow all guidelines.

We've also immunized 86k Albertans already (albeit one dose) I wonder how long before we see Covid having more difficulty propagating in this population.

If you went to a party and risked stuff like this, you should be paying for the test and any hospital visits, not the tax dollars.

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[Bryanbryoil]

How are the death numbers compared to what they were early in the pandemic in Alberta? I remember there being some very low mortality rates early on, hopefully that is still the case with so many hospitalized.

 

[Drivesaitl]

If you went to a party and risked stuff like this, you should be paying for the test and any hospital visits, not the tax dollars.

Totally agreed. We haven't used one test, haven't risked one exposure. Mind you I'm semi retired so easy to isolate and follow all the protocols. I feel for people that have to work though this and live in large family homes.

But the people just out and a bit partying. They should pay for their own, and many have actually disclosed thats where they think they got covid. .

 

[Drivesaitl]

As someone in the field... this is entirely baseless.

Pfizer stepped in and acquired a license to Biontech’s vaccine back in March. Prior to this, Pfizer had limited R&D and zero late stage experience with mRNA vaccines. They’ve done a fantastic job to have any substantive doses available... normally tech transfer of the manufacturing process can take 6 months to a year.

And of all of the companies, Pfizer took the greatest risk... they ran a 30k phase 3 just like moderna but they did it without Operation Warpspeed $$$.

Moreover the typical price of a new vaccine is $100+/ dose and Pfizer is selling this for $20ish... a price that would have been set before they had full visibility to the CoGs.

Thanks, just frustrated on behalf of all the seniors, vulernable people and emergent services people that need this vaccine pronto. I don't have a horse in this race, we'll be safe for the long game and won't be getting vaccinated it looks like for a long time, but I want the people who need it getting it in the arms.

That said, what I said isn't baseless. Pfizer is behind on shipments to Canada for the next Month, all sources saying we will be getting only half the Pfizer vaccines that we were timelined. I could have used a different word than defaulted, just that they are behind on shipments to Canada, and many countries.

 

[oilers'72]

How are the death numbers compared to what they were early in the pandemic in Alberta? I remember there being some very low mortality rates early on, hopefully that is still the case with so many hospitalized.

Mortality was low, as the winter was almost over. 7 deaths reported at the most per day, up until the end of October, then it really took off. The peak was 27 on December 27th. After that we're on the backside of the curve. Whether there's another wave is too soon to say but, with the reduction in cases and those in hospitals and ICU, the death count should come down.

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

Very nice to see new cases come down as much as they have. Hopefully this trend continues while our hospitalization rates come down.

 

[Oilers in NS]

we are vaccinating at a rate of 0.4% in NS. At that rate, it will take us 8 years for 2 shots. On a positive note, we had 0 cases today. WE have actually done really well in NS. We have had 1557 total cases.

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[ThePhoenixx]

Norway says no link between COVID-19 vaccine and several elderly recipients' deaths

"Since the start of Norway's vaccination campaign at the end of December, the country has registered 33 deaths among elderly people who have received their first dose, according to public health authorities."

"The reports suggest that common adverse reactions to mRNA vaccines, such as fever and nausea, may have contributed to worsening of their underlying diseases and a fatal outcome in some frail patients," the Norwegian Medicines Agency told CBS News' Steve Berriman. "The patients died from their underlying disease." End Quote

So NOW its the underlying conditions causing fatalities. Special treatment for the Covid Vaccine. Covid numbers till now never received that luxury.

 

[joestevens29]

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[tardigrade81]

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