News Article: Contract talks for Senators’ Matt Duchene: update - no numbers [Part 2]

[BigBlackCoffee1984]

Duchene is mentally fragile (see his country performances, a man in full control does not need to do this, he just walks around town all Smoove B and people know it) so I see him re-signing here. Stone is cock of the walk, doubt he wants to come back. We'll see.

Probably going to the game tonight, the snow thing is pure bull****, not a snowflake out there.

A couple hours away in Trenton, we're getting hit pretty good.

 

[solidprospect]

Probably going to the game tonight, the snow thing is pure bull****, not a snowflake out there.

Fake news? O university classes are already cancelled for tonight and tomorrow.

 

[devbouz12]

Fake news? O university classes are already cancelled for tonight and tomorrow.

It's coming your way. Everything west of Ottawa is already being hit

 

[devbouz12]

Kypreos (I know) now saying we're closer to signing Duchene than Stone.

 

[BatherSeason]

Kypreos (I know) now saying we're closer to signing Duchene than Stone.

They have been saying this for over a week now.

Probably more like Duchene said "No' to whatever was offered and Stone said "F**K NO", therefore interpreted as Duchene being closer to signing.

 

[krapsik]

I am in minority, but out of two i prefer Duchene going forward. Stone can show his "leadership" elsewere. Sad for Tkatchuk. No home meal for him for some time

 

[branch]

Fake news? O university classes are already cancelled for tonight and tomorrow.

Ottawa U has already sent out the email. Do some research before you spout off.

Due to a major winter storm expected to hit the Ottawa region today, the University has decided to cancel all classes for a period of 24 hours, starting at 4 p.m. on Tuesday, February 12. Classes will resume at 4 p.m. on Wednesday, February 13. The University will closely monitor the storm’s progress and let you know if the situation changes by noon tomorrow.
This cancellation covers all courses in all faculties at the undergraduate and graduate levels. CO-OP work terms, along with clinical and non-clinical placements, are not covered by this cancellation.
Please contact your faculty directly if you have any questions.
2019 February 12Univ. of Ottawa

 

[devbouz12]

I am in minority, but out of two i prefer Duchene going forward. Stone can show his "leadership" elsewere. Sad for Tkatchuk. No home meal for him for some time

Is there a specific reason why?

 

[krapsik]

Is there a specific reason why?

I think Duchene is better player. One of two - Duchene. I am happy if both stay.

 

[devbouz12]

I think Duchene is better player. One of two - Duchene. I am happy if both stay.

Fair enough. I'll agree he has more raw skill but I just can't pass up Stone's IQ

 

[Sting]

Stone is unquestionably better than Duchene and younger. I had thought he was much more likely to stick through the rebuild based on his past comments but it would appear not from the rumors...

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Ottawa U has already sent out the email. Do some research before you spout off.

Due to a major winter storm expected to hit the Ottawa region today, the University has decided to cancel all classes for a period of 24 hours, starting at 4 p.m. on Tuesday, February 12. Classes will resume at 4 p.m. on Wednesday, February 13. The University will closely monitor the storm’s progress and let you know if the situation changes by noon tomorrow.
This cancellation covers all courses in all faculties at the undergraduate and graduate levels. CO-OP work terms, along with clinical and non-clinical placements, are not covered by this cancellation.
Please contact your faculty directly if you have any questions.
2019 February 12Univ. of Ottawa

I think solidprospect meant O as in Ottawa University not 0 as in zero. He was refuting the poster who said there’s no snow.

 

[BonkTastic]

the snow thing is pure bull****, not a snowflake out there.

This isn't going to age well.

 

[branch]

I think solidprospect meant O as in Ottawa University not 0 as in zero. He was refuting the poster who said there’s no snow.

I'm gonna keep my post because I have never ever heard anyone refer to the University of Ottawa as "O University"

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

I am conflicted about Stone vs Duchene. Do I want both? Hell yeah brother. Stone is better than Duchene on the whole and should get more money but Duchene has produced more this year and plays a more important position. Stone is younger by a year and he’s also less durable/more injury prone. It’s tough to say without knowing what their contracts will look like (from Ottawa or whoever). I’m not sure Stone is worth 2-3 million more than Duchene. I want both but would rather have only 1 than none.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

I'm gonna keep my post because I have never ever heard anyone refer to the University of Ottawa as "O University"

I hear Ottawa U a lot at least. In any case yes we are going to be bombed with snow!

 

[aragorn]

It's really coming down now in the west end, not sure I'll make my flight out tomorrow morning.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Kypreos (I know) now saying we're closer to signing Duchene than Stone.

Gross.

 

[BonkTastic]

This isn't going to age well.

LOL, it hasn't even been 15 minutes since I posted this and in Kanata South it's gone from ominous grey clouds to "the snow is falling gald-damned sideways".

 

[swiftwin]

Why would the media try to sabotage the sens? What's their beef with them?

Clickbait for Leafs fans.

 

[Tuna99]

Stone is unquestionably better than Duchene and younger. I had thought he was much more likely to stick through the rebuild based on his past comments but it would appear not from the rumors...

I agree, but on an 8 year contract I’d take Duch based on his skating and NHL production alone.

Stones smarter - but in 4 years when he’s into his 30s I don’t think he’ll be a regular contributing top line forward - he’ll be more at a Bobby Ryan level which is here and there and not able to impact a game each shift like he does now.

So Duch for 8 years, Anthing less then 5 years Stone all day

 

[BondraTime]

I agree, but on an 8 year contract I’d take Duch based on his skating and NHL production alone.

Stones smarter - but in 4 years when he’s into his 30s I don’t think he’ll be a regular contributing top line forward - he’ll be more at a Bobby Ryan level which is here and there and not able to impact a game each shift like he does now.

So Duch for 8 years, Anthing less then 5 years Stone all day

Skating deteriorates over time, starting around 28/29 years old.

Hockey I.Q doesn't, Stone will think just as quick when he is 34 as he does now.

Stone is doing what he does because he thinks the game 2 seconds quicker than all but like ~10 players in the NHL.

What 33-35 year old's can you name that use their skating as an asset, or that their deteriorated, former elite skating hasn't affected their game? They are few and far between.

The guys affected most by age are those that rely on their skating, as it's the most commonly affected skill by ageing.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Skating deteriorates over time, starting around 28/29 years old.

Hockey I.Q doesn't, Stone will think just as quick when he is 34 as he does now.

Stone is doing what he does because he thinks the game 2 seconds quicker than all but like ~10 players in the NHL.

What 33-35 year old's can you name that use their skating as an asset, or that their deteriorated, former elite skating hasn't affected their game? They are few and far between.

The guys affected most by age are those that rely on their skating, as it's the most commonly affected skill by ageing.

I agree with this, but to be fair Duchene is also very smart (not Stone smart) and regardless if you're a strong skater or smart or both, your game deteriorates anyway. Look at the top 50 scorers, there are very few guys in their 30s. There are not many 33-35 year olds who are top players anymore. These 8 year deals for 27+ year olds are way worse than 8 year deals for early 20 year olds. I would still sign both Stone and Duchene.

 

[Tuna99]

Skating deteriorates over time, starting around 28/29 years old.

Hockey I.Q doesn't, Stone will think just as quick when he is 34 as he does now.

Stone is doing what he does because he thinks the game 2 seconds quicker than all but like ~10 players in the NHL.

What 33-35 year old's can you name that use their skating as an asset, or that their deteriorated, former elite skating hasn't affected their game? They are few and far between.

The guys affected most by age are those that rely on their skating, as it's the most commonly affected skill by ageing.

If you can’t keep up no amount of smarts will help you - Scott Gomez showed us that. ‘Your hands and head don’t leave you, it’s your legs that go’

Stone is smart, but if to me he doesn’t look slow but he’s at his peak speed today - and from here on in he’ll only get slower as the league gets faster and age takes its toll on him.

I’m a huge fan, love his game, but 8 years to me is a contract I wouldn’t be jumping at to sign.

 

[R2010]

Skating deteriorates over time, starting around 28/29 years old.

Hockey I.Q doesn't, Stone will think just as quick when he is 34 as he does now.

Stone is doing what he does because he thinks the game 2 seconds quicker than all but like ~10 players in the NHL.

What 33-35 year old's can you name that use their skating as an asset, or that their deteriorated, former elite skating hasn't affected their game? They are few and far between.

The guys affected most by age are those that rely on their skating, as it's the most commonly affected skill by ageing.

That's not entirely correct. How many 35+ year old plus players are effective without having been a good skater earlier in their career?

Strikes me that the ones who don't age well are the ones who rely on straight line speed - not necessarily the ones who have great edge work.