We should be very happy if he hits over 75+.
lets be real here.
I think McDavid falls somewhere between 90 and 100 points while missing somewhere between 2-6 games for the year. He has a strong will to improve so I think that's attainable. Adding Lucic and still having Maroon should provide two players who can create space for him.
Despite losing Hall, I think by adding Larsson that's a net positive for McDavid in terms of scoring chances. Larsson should get the puck back from the opposition more often and he's excellent at transitioning the puck to the forwards which McDavid should be able to take advantage of in the neutral zone. He and Hall didn't really gel offensively so losing Hall shouldn't detract much from McDavid's offensive game. On the other hand, without Hall the defensive focus from other teams should fall entirely on McDavid.
Definitely a net positive for McDavid is Larsson, the loss of Hall basically means nothing to McDavid since McDavid + Hall for whatever reason had the worst chemistry basically of any combination we had with McDavid.
A big, big problem we have is we often waste like 2/3rds of many McDavid shifts pinned in our own zone or making stupid mistakes like bobbling the puck when D have full control ... that sort of stuff Larsson will be a big improvement on.
Doing that approach also means spreading around the prime scoring opportunities and using McDavid in defensive situations more, so it would inevitably limit his production. Chicago exploded Kane's production by maximizing his prime scoring opportunities, at the expense of Toews even.If McDavid is out with Larsson. This whole board wants to see 3 scoring lines, which will take time that Larsson plays with McDavid.
Definitely a net positive for McDavid is Larsson, the loss of Hall basically means nothing to McDavid since McDavid + Hall for whatever reason had the worst chemistry basically of any combination we had with McDavid.
A big, big problem we have is we often waste like 2/3rds of many McDavid shifts pinned in our own zone or making stupid mistakes like bobbling the puck when D have full control ... that sort of stuff Larsson will be a big improvement on.
you're right, thats why he has so many assists and NJ scored a ton of goals
oh wait, he doesn't
I hope no one is dismissing the fact that we are going into this year with, ahhhhhh, I forgot the phrase. Shoot!
Oh Yeah....
...the same coach. The same coach that I thought showed he could teach certain team aspects to this team's game over a 1 year period, which was new to the coach himself as far as the team goes, the players who went through coaches on a seemingly yearly basis for the last 5 years go, and us fans go.
Some of that has to have an effect on players. Never mind the key addition of players.
At ES over the last two years Larsson is tied for 36th amongst defensemen for assists with 36. 39 gest you into the top 20. He should play a lot 5vs5 with McDavid and if he can simply get the puck to MCDavid without /97 having to come way back into the defensive zone his assist numbers should go up. This is something he can definitely do as his passing in general is very good and his first pass in particular are excellent. .
where are you pulling these stats from? i'd like to read into it more.So I think whats important with all those numbers above is that is shows Larsson does figure in an ALOT of his teams points and by extension plays. It is likely the case the top forward line he played with really wasnt scoring a ton 5x5 when he was on. But he was certainly figuring in on a ton of the plays as he was getting points on a lot of those goals. If he has a simiarly high IPP and IAP on the Oilers with McDavid as his center, his assists and points should shoot up just by being on the ice for more goals.
I think he has a abnormally high IAP just due to elite breakout passing that can kick a breakout into hyper drive. results in more odd man rushes and 2 on 1s.
He also produces well at 5x5, just below top pairing level IMO. Hell benefit from McDavid as McDavid will from him
FTR his IPP and IAP stats blew me away. Never thought theyd be that high
where are you pulling these stats from? i'd like to read into it more.
i enjoyed these data, but they were less encouraging and don't factor usage:
http://www.todaysslapshot.com/one-timers/using-nhl-passing-data-to-uncover-playing-styles/
they do indicate positive things about Davidson.
(a mod might want to copy these posts to the Larsson thread?)
Doing that approach also means spreading around the prime scoring opportunities and using McDavid in defensive situations more, so it would inevitably limit his production. Chicago exploded Kane's production by maximizing his prime scoring opportunities, at the expense of Toews even.
That would be ridiculous. Please no.McDavid will be named captain just before the beginning of training camp.
That would be ridiculous. Please no.
Unfortunately, with the Hall trade, the health-factor of McDavid is now the #1 determiner of the Oilers' season's success or failure. I mean, if he breaks his leg in game three and misses the following three or four months, the season's a wash (again). So there is already enough pressure on him. He doesn't need to be a teen captain with all older players.
Despite the 'house-of-cards' that now rests on McDavid's shoulders, I'm still more excited about the Oilers next season than for several years, just because of... McDavid, but also because there appears to be some locker-room stability now. I like the coach.
I was never convinced that Hall was the kind of player to win with, or to lead a team. I'm fairly sure that his locker-room presence was not helping the team move into a "winning" mode (not to discount his considerable talent and skills on-ice). McDavid certainly hasn't proven he is that guy yet, either, but in any case a drastic change of attitude was needed, and with the top-guy of the last few years gone, the new coach established, and a new building to play in, it feels more fresh.
As for McDavid, IF he stays healthy all year and if the Oilers' supporting cast is offensively similar to last year (i.e., crap), I say he'll score about 85 points. On the other hand, if the supporting cast starts to blossom, McDavid could score up in the 90s.
Alternatively, if he gets injured and the team (inevitably) falls into a hole, he'll score about 50 points.