I hope Electric sues. That would be great fun.
All you have done is call fans who like it fickle. HOW DOES LIKING A LOGO MAKE YOU A FICKLE FAN? It's not a hard question.
All you have done is call fans who like it fickle.
I don't see that being any fun.
You both need to chill. Keep it impersonal.
You have to start to accept that there are people who actually like the new look. So while you don't, you still won't change their opinions. Not even by repeating yourself.Lol, to be honest I have.
He's the one who's berating me and insulting me. I've done nothing of the sort to begin with or in response.
I've been pretty calm about it all when discussing with other people. This guy can't leave me alone.
You have to start to accept that there are people who actually like the new look. So while you don't, you still won't change their opinions. Not even by repeating yourself.
You don't have to buy new merchandise to support the team.
If I hate the logo, which I do, why the hell would I wear it? I'm a season ticket holder, I'm pretty sure that means I support the team a little bit more than someone wearing a new logo hat.
And I'm not going to stir the pot with Buffalo fans, but they had a whole site against the slug. I'm pretty sure alot of fans that hated it didn't just roll over and accept it.
I wasn't talking about Tampa Bay area fans being fickle merely because of their purchasing habits. Their purchasing habits just reinforce the fickle fan base in this area.
How many home Bucs games were on TV this year?
When did the Bolts attendance start to rise?
You're way off base, nice try though.
Whatever man, you had post after post calling people who liked the logo and jerseys fickle and complacent. Never brought up any of this other stuff until now. As a fellow season ticket holder who is not a 100% in love with the logo (but doesn't hate it), I'm saying I'm going to buy the gear anyway. Take that how you want, like I don't already know how what that's going to be.
Yep, you simplified it all right. You believe that the entire sports base in this area are bandwagoners (might as well use that term, your simplification made it perfectly clear what you meant), that will buy into any brand of **** that a team throws at a wall as long as that team is currently winning. Yes?
I don't think you're right, but since this has become a totally worthless, repetitive discussion, I'm out. Have a good one.
No, my post said the fans in this area are fickle. They are complacent in accepting the logo even though the poll showed a large majority didn't like the logo. They will accept it.
Where is this poll that you refer to all the time? Do you have a link? Stating something is disliked by a "majority" of fans without any data is not an accurate statement.
Call me callous, but I do find it quite humorous that somebody could be so bent out of shape over a logo/identity change. I mean, I haven't seen this type of passion since the rise of the Birther movement.
This was the poll from Cristodero's blogThere was a poll on Part 1 of the Branding thread here. Cristodero had a poll on his blog and there was another one out on the web somewhere that I can't recall now. I'll find the links when I get home later. Also, while not an official "poll" per se, the TBL Facebook page was getting lit up with tons of negative comments. The data is definitely out there.
I think we need more of that passion IMHO.
Very interesting NHL news from Cork Gaines, who writes: “One of the Lightning radio broadcasters was on a local station in Tampa talking and mentioned that what they unveiled last week may not be exactly what they wear on the ice next season. He mentioned possibly adding a lightning bolt to the shorts and some other unspecified tweaks. This makes me think we got a mid-season unveiling just so the team could gauge reaction and make adjustments — a concept I’m surprised we don’t see more often.”
I dig passion, but sometimes it can strike others as misguided.
And this thread is a classic case of a 'discussion' going nowhere because opinion/perception is the only thing driving it.
I respectfully but completely disagree. Discussion forums are not created to serve the collective yes-men. A discussion board is a place to express opinions and perceptions, without unnecessary personal attacks. Theres nothing wrong with healthy debate, and this topic isn't a dead one based on the recent goings-on (ie. Alleged radio comments). On top of that, I'm not really sure how you can call one's opinion misguided. An opinion is an opinion, which in and of itself is a fact, and just because you don't agree with him or the way be expresses it doesn't make it any less valid.