Friedman: Columbus and... Erik Karlsson?

[Addison Rae]

It's really annoying watching people question Friedman's credibility in regards to situations like these. Just because Columbus isn't a "front runner" for Karlsson do you not think they at least called and are considering making an offer for him? Frankly I love the interesting tidbits Friedman shares, just because a transaction doesn't happen between these two teams doesn't mean anything Friedman reported was wrong.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Im from Finland and not sure what kind of place Columbus is, but I assume that not the most comfortable? And player like Karlsson will definitely want to live in comfortable city, it wont be only money

What do you base your assumption on?

 

[Rabid Ranger]

"somebody" "thought" "maybe" "try" ...

Yeah, okay. I wonder if Friedman should get the Eklund treatment.


Ohio seems like a bit of a culture shock at least to me.

Yeah, it would be an upgrade.

 

[major major]

I don't know why they do this unless they are moving Jones or Werenski. The 3 of them fill the same role, and CBJ needs star power at forward more than anything

It doesn't really make much sense. Unless the Jackets are planning on doing something revolutionary with team strategy to take advantage of a top 4 like this:

Werenski-Jones
Nutivaara-Karlsson

Imagine them on the ice 50+ minutes a game.

Could there be a massive deal around Karlsson + Duchene to be had?


To OTT: Wennberg + Dubinsky + Murray + Abramov + 1st + another prospect/pick

To CBJ: Karlsson + Dunchene

That's not pretty for Ottawa.

Don’t kill me if the value is a little off, but here’s a (sort of) 3 way

To LA: Panarin, Milano

To CBJ: Toffoli, Vilardi

Then

To OTT: Toffoli, Savard, Vilardi, 2019 1st

To CBJ: Karlsson (extension pre-negotiated)

Am I off, or could that work for everyone?

It kind of makes sense, because Columbus can't settle for futures, while Ottawa really should. That's a lot to add to Panarin though - the price of Karlsson's extension would have to be reasonable (~$11m?).

 

[Maylo]

Im from Finland and not sure what kind of place Columbus is, but I assume that not the most comfortable? And player like Karlsson will definitely want to live in comfortable city, it wont be only money

Yeah, this is a downtown and the rink is right around the corner.

 

[major major]

So we’d be giving up Panarin, Milano, and Savard for Karlsson? Who’s going to be scoring goals for us? That’s awful value for Columbus, and I don’t even care that we’d be acquiring one of the best defensemen in the league.

For a signed Karlsson I'd accept that deal. Assuming we can't sign Panarin that is.

And who cares who scores for us, the other teams will never get out of their own end.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Im from Finland and not sure what kind of place Columbus is, but I assume that not the most comfortable? And player like Karlsson will definitely want to live in comfortable city, it wont be only money

Yeah from my limited experience it seems like there's a lot of cannon fire and confusing insects.

 

[major major]

Yeah, this is a downtown and the rink is right around the corner.

The cannon is not without it's drawbacks.

Why did you have to show him that picture? It looks so much worse when the wind picks up the dust like that. The media will never give us a break about the stinging insect problem or the artillery raining down, we can at least show a pretty picture somewhere.

To our Finnish friend, in all seriousness, 90% of U.S. and Canadian cities are identical. There's some crime ridden parts of Detroit, and some cities like Montreal have a special culture, but most Europeans who travel through say that Columbus = St. Louis = Ottawa = Winnipeg. All the damn same.

 

[mikeyp24]

Yeah from my limited experience it seems like there's a lot of cannon fire and confusing insects.

You should see the bugs near lake erie every couple years... invaded by canadian soldiers. Hate those bastards. (The bugs not the brave men up north)

 

[GoJackets1]

IMO not a chance of this occurring... but out of curiosity how is this deal for Ottawa?

Murray+Dubinsky(dump)+ Marchenko/Abramov+1st+2nd

 

[major major]

IMO not a chance of this occurring... but out of curiosity how is this deal for Ottawa?

Murray+Dubinsky(dump)+ Marchenko/Abramov+1st+2nd

For who?

It's a bit of an overpay for Pageau.

Seriously though, I don't think Ryan Murray is valued like a steady second pair D-man. More like a #4/5 with big red flags. If it was Nuti instead of Murray I think Ottawa should consider it.

 

[Pens x]

"But somebody was telling me that they thought maybe Columbus was trying to get into this too, which I thought was pretty interesting."

Can this be any more baseless and vague.

Someone told me they thought maybe team x pursues Karlsson

 

[Theo Von]

He's not signing in Columbus.

Next.

Cool post, Nostradamus.

 

[GoJackets1]

For who?

It's a bit of an overpay for Pageau.

Seriously though, I don't think Ryan Murray is valued like a steady second pair D-man. More like a #4/5 with big red flags. If it was Nuti instead of Murray I think Ottawa should consider it.

That's too bad, but unfortunately I agree. We value Murray pretty highly whereas he has a reputation as an injury prone #3/#4. At the same time, other GMs clearly like him as evidenced by being picked for the World Cup and other tournaments.

 

[CBJx614]

Ohio seems like a bit of a culture shock at least to me.

Ask Nuttivara or Wennberg or Carlsson or Karlsson or Korpisalo or Hanikainen or Kekalainen

 

[Halla]

Could Otttawa land both Werenski and Wennberg for an extended Karlsson?

not likely. Weresnki + is huge for a team that has 0 chance of keeping ek

 

[Maylo]

"But somebody was telling me that they thought maybe Columbus was trying to get into this too, which I thought was pretty interesting."

Can this be any more baseless and vague.

Someone told me they thought maybe team x pursues Karlsson

This is as fitting as him saying that Pittsburg is trying to land Tavares "quietly". Esp. after that show CAA put on.

 

[Korpse]

It's really annoying watching people question Friedman's credibility in regards to situations like these. Just because Columbus isn't a "front runner" for Karlsson do you not think they at least called and are considering making an offer for him? Frankly I love the interesting tidbits Friedman shares, just because a transaction doesn't happen between these two teams doesn't mean anything Friedman reported was wrong.

The problem with Friedman is that he throws out possibilities that really seem to lack substance. It’s really not different than numerous twitter accounts that do have sources but report on everything they hear. What separates the guys who do this for a living and the guys who do it for fun is that when they throw something out there it’s concrete. Friedman has a tendency to this, he will throw out a tidbit and while I enjoy them the problem becomes that a good number of people take it for more than it’s worth because it’s coming from someone as reputable as Friedman. For someone in Friedman’s position it’s a little irresponsible.

 

[eNTe17]

I like the fact that Jarmo was the GM (or coach, cant remember) of Jokerit when Karlsson played there during the lockout.

He set a point record for defensemen that season I believe, even though he only played half..

 

[Deuce Awesome]

Im from Finland and not sure what kind of place Columbus is, but I assume that not the most comfortable? And player like Karlsson will definitely want to live in comfortable city, it wont be only money

Ive only drove through it a few times on my way to Florida, but it looked like a beautiful city. Its actually my second favorite in terms of eye appeal on the highway behind Cincinnati. Just something about it appealed to me.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Could Otttawa land both Werenski and Wennberg for an extended Karlsson?

No way Zach Werenski would be included for an extended Karlsson.

 

[Crede777]

The cannon is not without it's drawbacks.

Why did you have to show him that picture? It looks so much worse when the wind picks up the dust like that. The media will never give us a break about the stinging insect problem or the artillery raining down, we can at least show a pretty picture somewhere.

To our Finnish friend, in all seriousness, 90% of U.S. and Canadian cities are identical. There's some crime ridden parts of Detroit, and some cities like Montreal have a special culture, but most Europeans who travel through say that Columbus = St. Louis = Ottawa = Winnipeg. All the damn same.

You forgot to mention that there is literally nothing to do in Columbus. When you live here they force you to stay in a cage when you aren't actively working. And they feed you moldy bread.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

You forgot to mention that there is literally nothing to do in Columbus. When you live here they force you to stay in a cage when you aren't actively working. And they feed you moldy bread.

....and then force you to do a lizard bomb at the Winking Lizard.

 

[timmeh]

Could there be a massive deal around Karlsson + Duchene to be had?


To OTT: Wennberg + Dubinsky + Murray + Abramov + 1st + another prospect/pick

To CBJ: Karlsson + Dunchene


Panarin-Dubois-Anderson
Milano-Duchene-Atkinson
Foligno-Nash-Bjorkstrand
Jenner-Sedlak-Davidsson

Werenski-Jones
Nutivaara-Karlsson
Kukan-Savard

You’re trading for Erik Karlsson and then you put him on the second pairing?

Don’t kill me if the value is a little off, but here’s a (sort of) 3 way

To LA: Panarin, Milano

To CBJ: Toffoli, Vilardi

Then

To OTT: Toffoli, Savard, Vilardi, 2019 1st

To CBJ: Karlsson (extension pre-negotiated)

Am I off, or could that work for everyone?

Don’t know about the value but the general opinion is that Vilardi is close to untouchable.

 

[wahsnairb]

Don’t kill me if the value is a little off, but here’s a (sort of) 3 way

To LA: Panarin, Milano

To CBJ: Toffoli, Vilardi

Then

To OTT: Toffoli, Savard, Vilardi, 2019 1st

To CBJ: Karlsson (extension pre-negotiated)

Am I off, or could that work for everyone?

Panarin, Milano, Savard, and a 1st for EK is essentially what you’re saying.... yikes