OT: Cole's OT Bar: Now serving aviations and rain

[Tom Hanks]

 

[Honour Over Glory]

It's funny with the whole admissions thing because in the US it's nuts. It's so corrupt and maybe now they will take a very hard look at it.

 

[Tom Hanks]

It's funny with the whole admissions thing because in the US it's nuts. It's so corrupt and maybe now they will take a very hard look at it.

Here UBC is pretty shady. They make it much easier for international students to get in since they pay $37k a year in tuition compared to $5k for locals per year. They make the grade cutoffs really hard (in the 90%+ range) for locals but for international students it can be as low as 67%.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Here UBC is pretty shady. They make it much easier for international students to get in since they pay $37k a year in tuition compared to $5k for locals per year. They make the grade cutoffs really hard (in the 90%+ range) for locals but for international students it can be as low as 67%.

Damn, Canada is corrupt as hell too. Well obviously but yeah that's some shady crap and sucky for the local folks.

 

[HandshakeLine]

This is bad, but there were even crazier things that were openly done at U of Chicago when I was there, under the guise of donations or funding chairs. The slight saving grace to it is a few of the nepotism kids that came in when I was an undergrad were run out of the university on a rail because they couldn't hack the classes. It's a borderline abusive school, and professors (at least in my undergrad and grad career) didn't have any hesitation about making it clear if a student was not fit to be at Chicago, academically or intellectually.

One of the good things about the way the Czechs do university education is that, since it's all free, the only thing that really matters is your entrance exams, which have to be conducted in person, face-to-face with most of the faculty present. There's no way to fake a test or to have someone else write the application.

I will say too, that having to deal with American parents and alumni is making me and my American cohort-mates think seriously about having to work in the American university system. Parents are the absolute worst, worse even than entitled and spoiled students.

 

[Peat]

I will say too, that having to deal with American parents and alumni is making me and my American cohort-mates think seriously about having to work in the American university system. Parents are the absolute worst, worse even than entitled and spoiled students.

Insofar as I can tell, there is zero reason for any educator to work in the US unless they either really like it there, or are only in it for the research and need that funding.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Insofar as I can tell, there is zero reason for any educator to work in the US unless they either really like it there, or are only in it for the research and need that funding.

The funding isn't even that great these days.

 

[Peat]

The funding isn't even that great these days.

The UK requests that US academia hold its beer.

 

[Common Sense]

If administrators are in it for the money, students are in it for the “experience”, and professors are in it for research/money/indoctrination, is there anywhere in the university system where anyone actually cares about education?

 

[HandshakeLine]

The UK requests that US academia hold its beer.

Ain't that the truth. A good friend was at University of Manchester for a while and good lord, double grading for half the pay!

 

[HandshakeLine]

If administrators are in it for the money, students are in it for the “experience”, and professors are in it for research/money/indoctrination, is there anywhere in the university system where anyone actually cares about education?

Most professors. We take our jobs very seriously, especially if we're talking about my side of it, which is younger. And indoctrination really doesn't apply for anyone, regardless of which side of the isle you're on. If you want that sort of thing, you join a think tank. I took classes with some of the biggest names in conservative thought even though I'm a flaming liberal and my professors never once tried to convert me to the cause. It's a courtesy I also extend to my students too.

It's a frustrating career, but honestly, if you don't love teaching and education, you tend to wash out quick because of that. The pay isn't great, you teach a lot, you do lots of work, and you don't really get free time, even when classes aren't in session. There's much better careers you can do if you just want to get paid.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Most professors. We take our jobs very seriously, especially if we're talking about my side of it, which is younger. And indoctrination really doesn't apply for anyone, regardless of which side of the isle you're on. If you want that sort of thing, you join a think tank. I took classes with some of the biggest names in conservative thought even though I'm a flaming liberal and my professors never once tried to convert me to the cause. It's a courtesy I also extend to my students too.

It's a frustrating career, but honestly, if you don't love teaching and education, you tend to wash out quick because of that. The pay isn't great, you teach a lot, you do lots of work, and you don't really get free time, even when classes aren't in session. There's much better careers you can do if you just want to get paid.

I was a high school teacher and I agree that it's a terrible career choice if you don't actually want to do it.

 

[Shrimper]

My TV has decided to stop working. Keeps freezing then restarting. Can't change channels or anything....

 

[EightyOne]

 

[DegenX]

My TV has decided to stop working. Keeps freezing then restarting. Can't change channels or anything....

Have tried turning it off and turning it on again
You might try unplugging it for a few minutes and then plugging it back in again. Because electronics.

 

[T1K]

I just ordered an insane amount of condado tacos. Expectations are pretty high, will report back.

 

[EightyOne]

Collective bargaining:

So, average US inflation rates over the next 3 years is projected about 2% a year.

Our union is offering 3% raise each year next 3 years.

This seems pretty weak. Right?

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I just ordered an insane amount of condado tacos. Expectations are pretty high, will report back.

That poor toilet didn't know what that pasty white butt had in store for it.

Rest in peace poor porcelain Prince.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Collective bargaining:

So, average US inflation rates over the next 3 years is projected about 2% a year.

Our union is offering 3% raise each year next 3 years.

This seems pretty weak. Right?

I mean, beating inflation in a unionized position seems ok to me. Are the raises indexed to inflation with a minimum of 3% or just 3% flat no matter what?

 

[EightyOne]

I mean, beating inflation in a unionized position seems ok to me. Are the raises indexed to inflation with a minimum of 3% or just 3% flat no matter what?

Flat 3% a year. So it could end up better or worse depending on the overall economy. I don't really want it to be better--because that would mean economic collapse, lol.

I mean, I know inflation is not something that you really tie wages into, but we live in one of the most expensive parts of the country and I feel our wages aren't really taking that into account.

Unfortunately, unless you are biomedical/technology, it is hard to keep up with costs in the CA Bay Area.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Flat 3% a year. So it could end up better or worse depending on the overall economy. I don't really want it to be better--because that would mean economic collapse, lol.

I mean, I know inflation is not something that you really tie wages into, but we live in one of the most expensive parts of the country and I feel our wages aren't really taking that into account.

Unfortunately, unless you are biomedical/technology, it is hard to keep up with costs in the CA Bay Area.

Oh geez, you're in the Bay Area? Yeah housing costs are/have been exploding. My mortgage payment is worth a small closet with about 3 roommates in San Francisco. Cost of Living increases in the Bay have to be far higher than the national average. What industry are you in?

 

[EightyOne]

Oh geez, you're in the Bay Area? Yeah housing costs are/have been exploding. My mortgage payment is worth a small closet with about 3 roommates in San Francisco. Cost of Living increases in the Bay have to be far higher than the national average. What industry are you in?

Local government sector, administrative support...

 

[EightyOne]

Are disappointed/angry/surprised air hockey tables a thing?

Why am I just now noticed these faces? ahahahahahha

 

[Randy Butternubs]

I just ordered an insane amount of condado tacos. Expectations are pretty high, will report back.

Definitely my favorite Pittsburgh taco place. And maybe my favorite Pittsburgh restaurant. Which location? And what tacos did you get?

 

[HandshakeLine]

I was a high school teacher and I agree that it's a terrible career choice if you don't actually want to do it.

Teaching at the university level is tough, but grade school teaching is nuts. Talk about overworked and underpaid! I'm a very good university lecturer (at least according to my evals every year, YMMV), but I wouldn't stand a chance in a high school or middle school class room. It's a much more intense field.