Prospect Info: Cole Caufield (Part 5) - No Sophmore Slump, please Edition

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I have my doubts 5/5 but on the PP and 4/4 and 3/3 in overtime, he will be very dangerous. He will have a lot to adjust to when he turns pro. Best thing he can do with his development is work on lower body strength and power skating even more.

If Caufield can be a elite level skater and work on improving lower body strength like Gallagher, he can be a star! His shot and offensive skills are off the charts but needs to play with a dominate center who frees up space for him. Time and space and ability to create it will be everything
If anything, small guys with great hands should actually have an easier time scoring than in the past. Before the nhl started cracking down, there were small guys who scored like crazy, and that was when defencemen could actually hold onto them! Watch those classic games and see how different the rules were. It’s crazy. The further back you go, the more goals they scored too! I think the big difference is how much the goaltending improved. If Caulfield can score Like that on nhl goalies, he’ll have a nice career.
 
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If anything, small guys with great hands should actually have an easier time scoring than in the past. Before the nhl started cracking down, there were small guys who scored like crazy, and that was when defencemen could actually hold onto them! Watch those classic games and see how different the rules were. It’s crazy. The further back you go, the more goals they scored too! I think the big difference is how much the goaltending improved. If Caulfield can score Like that on nhl goalies, he’ll have a nice career.

5/5 is still very tough to score. Caufield needs to be an elite level skater if he produces like an impact player 5/5. The crack down made it more free for the elite level skaters. Even a guy like Drouin who skates very well struggles 5/5. I expect Caufield to be a very good top 6 forward but if he wants to be among the best and not just a PP specialist, he needs to be a step ahead of the average skater so he can create that time and space. Sames goes towards Suzuki... his skill will only take him so far. Habs development team needs to hammer them with power skating programs IMO.

Caufield at the WJC gave you a sample of what he can do in open space vs against more physical players down low and along the walls.

The other thing Caufield needs is a legit top 2C to play with. Someone that is physical and can drive the play while Caufield finds the soft ice.
 

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I legit cannot comprehend the sudden negativity about Caufield after the freshmen season he's had. What the hell was he supposed to do better than he did ? Somehow convince the national team coach to use him more and somehow carry an underachieving team to a WJC medal as an 18 year old? Cause that's litteraly the one thing he could have done better. I guess he could have somehow managed to be the top scorer on the worst team in his conference by a BIGGER margin but good luck with that surrounding cast.

word for word, everything you said, exactly what ive been thinking but unable to formulate the words lol

its as you said, incomprehensible.

I can only imagine Jack Hughes's predictable paltry rookie season has soured people on the former tandem a bit. Still remain unconcerned about Cole. Even happier he goes to college for 1 more season and not rushed to pro.
 
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I have no doubt this kid will be a quality scorer in the NHL

We just have to be VERY careful what kind of team we bring him into eventually.... if we are still a team that boasts NUMEROUS smaller players under 5"10 the way its been the last 15 years.... then yes odds are he will struggle

If when he finally joins the team and say the only really small player is Gallagher for instance, then maybe he has a shot at excelling a bit more

But unfortunately its been pretty clear having half a team of sub 5"10 players has been an enormous burden on the franchise, I just cant understand why we keep grabbing all the small players that seem to exist i the NHL, Caufield aside tho, I mean you HAD to take him when he was there

Just dont stick him on a line where HE's the tall one...
 

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5/5 is still very tough to score. Caufield needs to be an elite level skater if he produces like an impact player 5/5. The crack down made it more free for the elite level skaters. Even a guy like Drouin who skates very well struggles 5/5. I expect Caufield to be a very good top 6 forward but if he wants to be among the best and not just a PP specialist, he needs to be a step ahead of the average skater so he can create that time and space. Sames goes towards Suzuki... his skill will only take him so far. Habs development team needs to hammer them with power skating programs IMO.

Caufield at the WJC gave you a sample of what he can do in open space vs against more physical players down low and along the walls.

The other thing Caufield needs is a legit top 2C to play with. Someone that is physical and can drive the play while Caufield finds the soft ice.

Will depend also on how clever he is at getting into open shooting positions. Galchenyuk could never figure that out, even on the PP lol
 

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so far in the NCAA he's a master at it as teams would key on him since he was by far their best player and yet he always finds a way to get open.
for sure! he's been doing that for as long as he's been playing hockey. He's so smart he knows where to position himself and where to roam depending on where the puck is. I'm not taking anything away from Jack Hughes who i preach ALOT. But people thinking he's the reason why he was scoring at this rate are nuts, Caufield did have some nutty passes to him but if you watch closely, most of his goal are from drill level pass. he makes good play maker even better from the way he's always in movement and opening passing lane from whoever is carrying the puck. You literally CAN'T counter this, having somebody following him and convering everywhere he goes will just open up free more space and make it worst ( especially at the NHL level where it's unforgivin) and the only reason why this works for him is because the kid can f***ing shoot from every single angle possible and that aspect will only get better with time as his he'll get stronger and release will be quicker ( is it possible) and harder. I've said this when we drafted him and will say it again, he's a can't miss prospect and his size doesn't scare me one bit.
 

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then he must have been horribly miss-scouted

By every single poster on this board who discussed Galchenyuk's offensive IQ, as well as the broader NHL scouting communiyy, who had a lot more observations than whatever you're using to evaluate Caulfield.
 

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By every single poster on this board who discussed Galchenyuk's offensive IQ, as well as the broader NHL scouting communiyy, who had a lot more observations than whatever you're using to evaluate Caulfield.

Hard to truly evaluate this aspect of players until they get to the NHL. Sometimes they look great in junior/college vs peers (esp with physical advantages Galchenyuk had in OHL) but have actually plateaued and cannot raise their game to dominate next level NHL speeds because their situational awareness and processing speeds (IQ) are maxed.
 
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When did Caufield go from most prolific scorer in USHL history, being one of the best freshman in NCAA at a PPG to a complete bust without playing any hockey? What did I miss here?? Like did someone just realize he’s 5’8” or something because if he was 6’1” he’d have gone 1st OA and it’s not even close.
 
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When did Caufield go from most prolific scorer in USHL history, being one of the best freshman in NCAA at a PPG to a complete bust without playing any hockey? What did I miss here?? Like did someone just realize he’s 5’8” or something because if he was 6’1” he’d have gone 1st OA and it’s not even close.

He didn't score at the WJC, so people will overreact to the only hockey they've seen from him.
 

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then he must have been horribly miss-scouted

2012 just looks so bad, but it's hard to fault the scouts at the time as what Galchenyuk and Yakupov did to the OHL at 16 is just f***ing insane. 184 pts between them, in the last 20 years they were among the best all time seasons for 16 year olds in the OHL. But clearly something went very wrong with both players, as we all know some kids just peak at 16, 17, 18, 19 for various reasons.

Yakupov put up 170 pts in 107 OHL games, it would be hard not to get hyped on that, although I can't say as I didn't see either at 16 and I don't follow the draft that much for some time now. Still though to put up that kind of offense and then in the NHL the best he can do is 33 pts? At least Galchenyuk potted 30 goals and look at all the shit he gets. Of course for oiler fans when you have the McDavid/Drai show it's kind of easy to forget the 1st OA bust whereas all us Hab fans have to talk about is how great we were back in the day.
 
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