Confirmed Signing with Link: [COL] Avs Sign Devon Toews (4 Years, $4.1M AAV)

[Islay1989]

Those AAV’s are wishful thinking to say the least.

Yeah, not to mention he ignores they need to fill out the roster as well.

 

[Big Empty]

They have just under $9m in cap space and Barzal left to sign.

and Pulock no?

 

[Islay1989]

I mean, you see their cap situation. The only way you can theoretically move Bowen Byram for immediate help and fit it under the cap is if you move him for another young stud on his ELC. In that case, why would you even bother moving Byram.

Agreed, just a complete hot take.

 

[Murzu]

We have 26 million in cap space next offseason with Landy, Makar and Grubauer really only to sign. And Saad depending on how he does. Then we could also lose one of Donskoi/Graves/JTC in the expansion draft and that opens up another 3 million.

Landy will sign a team friendly deal like 7 million hopefully no more than 5 years.
Makar can go the Mack route and take less to keep the team together. 7 million over 6 years. Maybe tops at 8 million
Grubauer needs to prove he can stay healthy else we wont have to worry about him and could trade for another goalie.

So Avs cap is good.

Landy will be 7.5-8 and Makar ~9. We need to get rid of at least one of Gravy/JTC/Donk/EJ after 20-21.

 

[Foppberg]

I didn't say anything about what the trade would be.


A Top 6 Forward or Top 4 RHD on ELC money would be more valuable to this team in its current make up.

When's the last time a prospect as highly touted as Byram got traded though? Brayden Schenn maybe? Unless the perfect deal came along I don't see it happening, if it was something insane like... I don't even know lol. It's not like we have a huge glaring weakness on this team that requires moving a guy like Bo

 

[innitfam]

I guess an offersheet would have been better in this case.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I mean, you see their cap situation. The only way you can theoretically move Bowen Byram for immediate help and fit it under the cap is if you move him for another young stud on his ELC. In that case, why would you even bother moving Byram.

If Colorado trades a defenseman i think it’s much more likely you see any of EJ, Cole, Graves, Toews and even Girard traded before you see Byram who has his full ELC ahead of him. The Avs simply don’t have space to add salary.

Because the Top 4 LHD is set up long term already, and multiple other holes in the lineup exist beyond this year.


An ElC forward for example would be much more important in 2 years time then Byram as the 3rd LD would be.


Top 4 RHD on an ELC would probably be the most important roster piece we could add. Byram is turning more and more into a luxury piece for us rather than a need.

 

[Papa Francouz]

For sure. But if the Avs wanted to move any of those guys tomorrow, I'm confident none of them would be negative value contracts.

They're in about as good of a cap situation as any contending team.

EJ's contract might be a little difficult to move due to term, but I'd like to be believe you on the other contracts. As for the Avs' long-term cap structure, I hope you're right!

 

[S3rkie]

I think Sakic would gladly pay an extra second to not burn a bridge with one of the longest tenured gm's who has a lot of sway. The dude is making great trades consistently due partly in fact to how well he's respected league wide why ruin that over a single pick that the avs would probably butcher regardless.

 

[PWJunior]

Good to see Toews finally make some coin, he deserves it. He has made peanuts up until now.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Because the Top 4 LHD is set up long term already, and multiple other holes in the lineup exist beyond this year.


An ElC forward for example would be much more important in 2 years time then Byram as the 3rd LD would be.


Top 4 RHD on an ELC would probably be the most important roster piece we could add. Byram is turning more and more into a luxury piece for us rather than a need.

Teams don’t swap stud prospects for one another to target a position of need. It’s not a video game. Change of scenery prospect deals happen sure, but the Avs aren’t trading arguably the best D prospect on the planet for a similar value forward prospect, nor would the hypothetical other team trade their stud forward prospect for Byram.

Thetes just far too much risk. You stick with the guy you invested in or else your publicly throwing your scouting staff under the bus. Unless Byram asks out he isn’t getting traded for a forward prospect.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Fair deal.

 

[TheDoldrums]

NYI couldn't afford to pay that??

No. But they can afford to pay Ladd, Komarov, Clutterbuck and Cizikas over $15 million.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Dmen takes a while to develop; we are probably losing Graves next year and then we get to develop Byram in the 3 LHD role (if he doesn't get a year in the AHL). This contract says way more about Timmins (who is an injury concern) than it does about Byram. Timmins was suppose to be ready; now he is left without a spot in the short or long term.

 

[MaxDummy]

When's the last time a prospect as highly touted as Byram got traded though? Brayden Schenn maybe? Unless the perfect deal came along I don't see it happening, if it was something insane like... I don't even know lol. It's not like we have a huge glaring weakness on this team that requires moving a guy like Bo

Suzuki

 

[S3rkie]

No. But they can afford to pay Ladd, Komarov, Clutterbuck and Cizikas over $15 million.

I love how bad that Ladd contract was the second they signed it, I dont remember a single person thinking that was a good move.

 

[Foppberg]

Suzuki

Nah. I like him though.

 

[Islay1989]

Suzuki

Nope. Not even intriguing.

 

[Siludin]

Joe Sakic: Hello NHL fans. Look at your GM. Now look at me. Now back to at your GM. Now back to ME. Sadly, he isn't me, but if he stopped signing veteran players to bad contracts and showed some patience, he could smell like me.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

It's a 100k more per season than what I think he's worth, so it's a fair deal for Colorado. Hopefully he gets over the occasional brain farts that hurt us during the regular season and playoffs. Good for him and good for Colorado.

I wouldn't paint this as Sakic being magnificent though. It was a decent trade and decent contract. Overall, it's what should've been expected.

 

[kanucks25]

Not bad for a 4th rounder. That's life changing money for a guy that was making 900k a year before.

Isn't 900k life changing money compared to whatever he was making prior to that, as well?

 

[Web In Front]

What does Colorado's expansion draft protection list look like? MacKinnon, Rantanen, Kadri, Burakovsky, Johnson (NMC), Makar, Girard, Toews and Francouz with handshake deals to extend Landeskog and Grubauer after the expansion draft?

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

and Pulock no?

Yes, I forgot about him. As a neutral observer, I wonder if Ladd ends up on LTIR to make everything work. Most of their bigger contracts have NTCs in effect and are longer term, so I don't see many other great options there.

 

[Muffin]

Isn't 900k life changing money compared to whatever he was making prior to that, as well?

I guess it is compared to us average joes but that's peanuts for athletes and now he's making legit athlete money.

 

[Islay1989]

What does Colorado's expansion draft protection list look like? MacKinnon, Rantanen, Kadri, Burakovsky, Johnson (NMC), Makar, Girard, Toews and Francouz with handshake deals to extend Landeskog and Grubauer after the expansion draft?

There should be no handshake deals. Certainly not with Landeskog.