Confirmed Signing with Link: [COL] Avs Sign Devon Toews (4 Years, $4.1M AAV)

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JackFr

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No he isn’t. Despite his fantastic season, Toews is not good enough to be the top D on a playoff team. He is not a legit top pairing D, overvaluing him is just as bad as undervaluing him.
I am very confused by what you're saying.

Why is it that for you there is no in between of top four D and elite #1 top 10 defenceman in the league? Can't a guy be an excellent top pair defenceman without being a #1?

(Which by the way as many people pointed out, Toews was Colorado's #1 defenceman this season and it seemed to work out pretty well for them)
 

supsens

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Define what you think a top D is then. That's really the essence of the argument.

I get that you think some Avs fans are overvaluing Toews which is fair. But you should explain why you think we are overvaluing him. When Makar was out, Toews and Girard were playing upwards of 29 minutes a night IIRC. He was on the PK and he was scoring and playing great D. It was the epitome of versatility and really benefitted the Avs, especially in terms of how Bednar has the team play.

If that's the case, then the worst that can be said is that Toews is not a top D-man by your definition but he certainly fits the Avs needs in a top pairing D-man role.

I would venture to guess even Toews most enthusiastic supporters among the Islanders fans didn't foresee him excelling quite like he has with the Avs. A lot of them thought he would do well but he has really exceeded most people's expectations.

Has any Dman played with McKinnon and not looked great?
 

GirardSpinorama

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Toews absolutely played like a top pairing dman this year. Whether or not he keeps it up remains to be seen. He really hasn't had any issues infront of the net/in the corners at all, which was an issue for islander fans. Part of that is system though. He's just so ridiculously good at gap control, zone entry prevention, clearing the puck softly, pinching smartly and the Avs forwards back check so hard that he doesn't really play much in the dzone.
 

AvatarAang

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Just looking back at this deal after some of the recent contracts signed this summer.

Shoutout to Sakic for proving why he’s arguably the best GM in the league. Signing a top D for ~4M when others are going for 5-6M+. And he gave up barely anything to acquire Toews too.

Fantastic hockey player and GM, not many people can say that.
 

CoachBadkitten

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Just looking back at this deal after some of the recent contracts signed this summer.

Shoutout to Sakic for proving why he’s arguably the best GM in the league. Signing a top D for ~4M when others are going for 5-6M+. And he gave up barely anything to acquire Toews too.

Fantastic hockey player and GM, not many people can say that.

Having him and Girard for a combined 9.1 million is insane.
 
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