Just one problem...in the next game he's probably back to his invisible mode. He's really an on or off guy.
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romba
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That line as a whole has played better the past few games. There's a lot to be said for chemistry. The st and 3rd lines have it, and 2nd line is getting it back.
haveandare
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Great game by him, fight aside. But the fight was awesome too, he wrecked smith and barely took anything himself. Don't want him doing it often but times like that are when it's useful.
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Agreed....still a joy to watch. A proper thrashing. Well deserved. Job well done.
blue425
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Yeah. If I remember correctly Fedoruk had his face broken on two occasions prior to that.
Not the first time Kreider has stuck up for a teammate. Good to see it on this team.
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Glad he took care of it but why aren't they even looking to suspend Smith?? He only gets a 2 minute penalty? The one hit the league doesn't want and nothing's done about it again..
4 blind mice refereeing...what a joke...we still have the least amount of PP's in the NHL
Revel
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Zipay was on WFAN around 4:30 AM this morning. It's rare to have a guest talking Rangers hockey on the FAN, lol. Zippy was still in Tampa covering the Rangers. It was great.
When asked about Kreider, Zippy pointed to 3 things:
- He needs to play smarter (my question is "Can he?")
- He needs to see the ice better (once again, my question is "Can he?)
- He needs to slow down, or at least stop and look around every now & then, instead of being in 5th gear at all times.
I thought the first 2 points were obvious and most of us realize Kreider's shortcomings in that regard.
But his 3rd point is something I didn't consider. It's easy to get excited with his dynamic speed and power moves to the net, but maybe we don't consider that slowing down a bit (not all the time, but as needed) can make him a more effective, thoughtful hockey player. We need Kreider to be more than Emerson Etem. Stepan needs Kredier to be more than Emerson Etem.
Maybe Kreider needs to turn off the out-of-control turbo boost, tone it down, and learn how to handle the puck a bit. Maybe actually deek a goalie or make an intelligent pass. Sounds better to me than a shot at the logo or a reckless rush towards the goalie.
Is his (and our) obsession with speed/power hurting him at this point? Will slowing his game down at times magically make him an intelligent hockey player? Will he be able to use the extra time wisely?
When asked about Kreider, Zippy pointed to 3 things:
- He needs to play smarter (my question is "Can he?")
- He needs to see the ice better (once again, my question is "Can he?)
- He needs to slow down, or at least stop and look around every now & then, instead of being in 5th gear at all times.
I thought the first 2 points were obvious and most of us realize Kreider's shortcomings in that regard.
But his 3rd point is something I didn't consider. It's easy to get excited with his dynamic speed and power moves to the net, but maybe we don't consider that slowing down a bit (not all the time, but as needed) can make him a more effective, thoughtful hockey player. We need Kreider to be more than Emerson Etem. Stepan needs Kredier to be more than Emerson Etem.
Maybe Kreider needs to turn off the out-of-control turbo boost, tone it down, and learn how to handle the puck a bit. Maybe actually deek a goalie or make an intelligent pass. Sounds better to me than a shot at the logo or a reckless rush towards the goalie.
Is his (and our) obsession with speed/power hurting him at this point? Will slowing his game down at times magically make him an intelligent hockey player? Will he be able to use the extra time wisely?
Made Dan
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When Kreider was playing like garbage in 2013 when he first got here, he went a million miles an hour every shift, he never slowed down to observe the game around him and he outpaced his own brain. I don't see him playing like that lately.
But he really does need to "see the ice" better because he's getting way too predictable offensively.
But he really does need to "see the ice" better because he's getting way too predictable offensively.
eco's bones
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For Kreider to effectively use his speed as a weapon he needs help from his teammates. We haven't seen very much this year of him finding soft spots in the middle or Stepan throwing passes up the boards for Chris to skate into and then break around defenders. Even when plays like that don't turn into goals they can drive defenses back and create anxiety for the rest of the night.
Kreider can find other ways to score than the quick strike though. There are times that he just doesn't seem to have it going. He's got a good shot and he's good at deflecting shots and he's good at getting to the net and getting dirty goals---at least when he wants to.
I think losing Hagelin hurts the Rangers as well. There were games when between Chris one shift and Carl the next the game turned into a track meet. Now defenses can key more in just trying to negate Kreider.
Kreider can find other ways to score than the quick strike though. There are times that he just doesn't seem to have it going. He's got a good shot and he's good at deflecting shots and he's good at getting to the net and getting dirty goals---at least when he wants to.
I think losing Hagelin hurts the Rangers as well. There were games when between Chris one shift and Carl the next the game turned into a track meet. Now defenses can key more in just trying to negate Kreider.
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its much harder for him this season. you have to remember teams looked at the roster last year and saw Marty and Nash so im sure the plays used by the other teams defense might of left Kreids open more last year then this year. but also the secrets out. those stretch outlet passes off the boards and along the wall of his wing arent happening nearly as much teams realized that and shut it down.
silverfish
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I... I don't know if I'd agree with this at all.
Why do you say this? Because he's missed two penalty shots? You know what you have to do to get a penalty shot in the first place?
Before I can really retort to this post, I'm hoping you could elaborate a bit.
No, but it's not like he's stonehanded either. We've seen him undress defenders this year. Hjalmarsson the most noticeable memorable.
But, he is a god awful finisher. He gets a break/partial break at least 1-2 times per game. Almost Michael Grabner level of finishing.
He's very predictable and usually telegraphs his shot location. He doesn't move the puck around his body to give the goalie something to think about and isn't a threat to deke/dangle. Luongo knew Kreider was going low blocker before he shot.
Give this guy Zuccarello's hands and he's a 40 goal scorer.
i think kreider would win the rocket with zuccs hands and creativity around the net lol. kreider really does need to have more of a variety of moves around the goal. i dont think he has a bad shot or bad hands but he is very predictable. he almost always goes stick side trying to get it just over the goalies pad. nhl goalies know this and will save it most of the time even if kreider gets off a good shot.
all he needs is dat backhand-forehand move from Zucc's repertoire. He's destroyed so many goalies with that including Luongo last night. Almost automatic for him. If only Kreider has dem hands...
Revel
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We could probably donate any part of Zuuc (minus his frame
), and improve the recipient player.Hell, you could insert Zuuc's hockey sense into Tanner Glass and Tanner'd be NHL ready...maybe even fill in on the 3rd line from time to time!
BroadwayStorm
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I'm so disappointed in CK20. I really thought he would be an all star forward by now. All the tools and just hasn't put it together.
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