Confirmed Signing with Link: [CHI] G Petr Mrazek signs extension with the Blackhawks (2 years, $4.25M AAV)

WarriorofTime

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They need to hit the cap ceiling.

Pay them a high amount over short term.


I wouldn't call them questionable. Forced to pay UFAs to be on a bad team
Yeah vets like Dickinson and Mrazek would no doubt prefer 4 year deals. So you offer higher AAV to offset the risk for them to only sign a 2 year deal. A team more worried about maximizing cap space for the upcoming season likely offers more term for a lower AAV and runs the risk the contract creates a logjam a few years down the road. That’s the trade off in these negotiations.
 
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Blackhawkswincup

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I am fine with this

f***ing Tinordi better not get an extension though. We have signed the vets we need going forward around kids this should be last one to get this type of extension
 

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Does Chicago not realize they can get better players during Ufa at that price point, like they've done this multiple times, I don't understand what's the point of overpaying for mediocre talent when they can get draft capital for these players, and then flip these picks next season or the season after to improve their team. Like I get 1 or 2 players but it seems to be a weird pattern, heck they could even utilize cap space by acquiring bad expiring contracts and get draft picks alongside with it, besides retaining players who won't do much for them.
 

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Blackhawks single handedly driving up the price for ordinary players.

Kind of. I think its also that this offseason could be pretty interesting. A lot of teams will still be tight against the cap, but there are going to be more available cap space than in seasons past.
 

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Thought something like this might happen, Soderblom has been a disaster, they have cap space and need some sort of stability in net before their goalie prospects start getting NHL time.

The UFA goalie market this offseason will be atrociously bad.

If he played Toronto every other night he would be an absolute stud lol.
 

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Does Chicago not realize they can get better players during Ufa at that price point, like they've done this multiple times, I don't understand what's the point of overpaying for mediocre talent when they can get draft capital for these players, and then flip these picks next season or the season after to improve their team. Like I get 1 or 2 players but it seems to be a weird pattern, heck they could even utilize cap space by acquiring bad expiring contracts and get draft picks alongside with it, besides retaining players who won't do much for them.
You can't just have a revolving door of UFAs traded. You need some sort of stability.

Maybe Mrazek gets a 3rd or 4th round draft pick. Is that going to change how the rebuild in Chicago goes? Probably not.
 
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Captain Mountain

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Does Chicago not realize they can get better players during Ufa at that price point, like they've done this multiple times, I don't understand what's the point of overpaying for mediocre talent when they can get draft capital for these players, and then flip these picks next season or the season after to improve their team. Like I get 1 or 2 players but it seems to be a weird pattern, heck they could even utilize cap space by acquiring bad expiring contracts and get draft picks alongside with it, besides retaining players who won't do much for them.

I know this is a futures board and we can sometimes treat players as commodities, but these are real people and there are considerations other than just adding extra picks. Better UFAs also tend to want to compete, not rebuild.

Plus, Chicago has 5 firsts and 8 seconds in the next 3 drafts, plus oodles of cap space, this isn't stopping them from adding players or picks.
 

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Does Chicago not realize they can get better players during Ufa at that price point, like they've done this multiple times, I don't understand what's the point of overpaying for mediocre talent when they can get draft capital for these players, and then flip these picks next season or the season after to improve their team. Like I get 1 or 2 players but it seems to be a weird pattern, heck they could even utilize cap space by acquiring bad expiring contracts and get draft picks alongside with it, besides retaining players who won't do much for them.
Yeah honestly I don’t get it. Get another similar goalie for $2M

Accept someone’s cap dump around 2.5M and pick up a 2nd or so.

Same cap in, free assets.
 

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Davidson love’s contracts that start with a 4.

I get what he’s doing but I don’t think these bloated contracts are good management. He could be taken other teams bloated contracts and getting assets back. Hes not managing his cap space well.
 

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You can't just have a revolving door of UFAs traded. You need some sort of stability.

Maybe Mrazek gets a 3rd or 4th round draft pick. Is that going to change how the rebuild in Chicago goes? Probably not.
Well Bedard is injured and this season is a wash if they want stability they can get better players either via Ufa or trade picks that they could acquire if they traded pieces like Dickinson, Foligno, and Mrazek. Honestly the only player out the three I'd keep is Foligno since he seems to be a leader in the locker room and his trade return would seem to be minimal.

So if they traded those pieces then sure they would be a bit unstable for a couple months but they could solidify a foundation by acquiring some wingers for real cheap during the offseason, like Pittsburgh or Seattle did with Smith and Bjorkstrand, I know Smith isn't playing his best hockey but he is still valuable imo. Then maybe sign a #2 center or a top 4 dman during Ufa besides wasting capspace on mediocre players.
 

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Well Bedard is injured and this season is a wash if they want stability they can get better players either via Ufa or trade picks that they could acquire if they traded pieces like Dickinson, Foligno, and Mrazek. Honestly the only player out the three I'd keep is Foligno since he seems to be a leader in the locker room and his trade return would seem to be minimal.

So if they traded those pieces then sure they would be a bit unstable for a couple months but they could solidify a foundation by acquiring some wingers for real cheap during the offseason, like Pittsburgh or Seattle did with Smith and Bjorkstrand, I know Smith isn't playing his best hockey but he is still valuable imo. Then maybe sign a #2 center or a top 4 dman during Ufa besides wasting capspace on mediocre players.
Bjorkstrand was traded the season before
 

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Does Chicago not realize they can get better players during Ufa at that price point, like they've done this multiple times, I don't understand what's the point of overpaying for mediocre talent when they can get draft capital for these players, and then flip these picks next season or the season after to improve their team. Like I get 1 or 2 players but it seems to be a weird pattern, heck they could even utilize cap space by acquiring bad expiring contracts and get draft picks alongside with it, besides retaining players who won't do much for them.
1) Who else are we going to start at goalie that isn't completely defeating for the actual players on the team? We going to roll Soda? (Can't make a save).. or Stauber? (LOL).. and Commesso is too young and needs to play AHL games. The 3rd round pick we would get back for Petr isn't worth disrupting the team.
2) Who in the UFA goalie market isn't going to want long term money that is going to be a massive upgrade on Petr? He's been solid, lucky maybe, but he's been solid. Also.. have you seen the UFA goalie market?

Its literally a 2 year deal and we barely reach the floor none of this matters. Guys that are worth a shit want 4-7 years and we aren't giving that. This is a solid alternative.
 

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He’s been really good. There are plenty of teams paying worse starting goalies at least this much if not more, for more years.

This isn’t even really an overpay. He’d be an actual upgrade for several contenders…not in the “OMG Spencer Martin…Antti Raanta…why doesn’t team so-and-so claim him” kinda way but in an actual, tangible, real way.

But guessing he goes nowhere now, at least not this TDL.
 
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I know he's played well for the Hawks this year, but how does Peter Mrazek get a contract like that? It's a sign that they don't even want to compete for the next two years. That's fine I guess, but that sucks for fans.

Good on him though. For a guy that most thought was on his way out of the league a year ago, this is a great payday for him.
 
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I know he's played well for the Hawks this year, but how does Peter Mrazek get a contract like that? It's a sign that they don't even want to compete for the next two years. That's fine I guess, but that sucks for fans.

Good on him though. For a guy that most thought was on his way out of the league a year ago, this is a great payday for him.
I mean Jack Campbell got 5x5. This is a 2 year deal on a team with shitloads of cap space
 

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You get $4 million dollars and you get $4million dollars,


EVERYONE gets $4million dollars.
 

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