Champions League last 16

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Lyon isn't a big club? Depay is way overrated. I hate this kind of young players who talk big but can't back it up. Once again the Champions League fails to deliver and referees are once again a disgrace.

By all means stop watching.

 

[Pouchkine]

Talking about overrated players...

 

[Juve]

Good news is Khedria is not playing due to an irregular heartbeat. I am still worried about Atletico, their midfield is very good compared to ours.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Good news is Khedria is not playing due to an irregular heartbeat. I am still worried about Atletico, their midfield is very good compared to ours.

Their midfield is very good in general. The issue is Simeone is a very limited manager.

 

[Evilo]

Yeah, he's limited. Given his roster and his achievements, the only limited view here is to underrate him.

 

[Juve]

I think this is the first time Ronaldo's fk actually hit the target this season

 

[Evilo]

The circus...
From both teams

Poor ref is going to have 10 players around him at every single whistle.

 

[Juve]

Their midfield is very good in general. The issue is Simeone is a very limited manager.

Simeone is a better manager because he can do more with less.

 

[hatterson]

What did Costa get his yellow for? I didn't notice anything on the replay.

 

[Evilo]

Ronaldo doesn't change, that's for sure.
Shoots from 35 meters and two defensemen in front of him with 2 teammates free because... well because.

 

[Evilo]

What did Costa get his yellow for? I didn't notice anything on the replay.

Moving wall.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Yeah, he's limited. Given his roster and his achievements, the only limited view here is to underrate him.

Limited meaning he can't make the most of all star studded roster. He has one of the best lineups but plays like stoke

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Simeone is a better manager because he more with less.

What?

 

[Juve]

What?

I somewhat rewrote it. I am writing this on my phone.

 

[robertmac43]

With the nature of life recently I have not been as up to date with footirbfrom around the world. So I was just wondering how is Saul playing at the moment?

 

[Evilo]

Limited meaning he can't make the most of all star studded roster. He has one of the best lineups but plays like stoke

He has the 3rd roster in Spain. Has had it for years. Yet he won 1 title and finished 2nd a few times (in fact he is 2nd right now).
He isn't close to having the 2nd best CL roster and yet reached the final mutiple times, including one he should have won.

All star sudded roster. LOL.
I'm wondering if Guardiola could win a title with Atletico against Barca and Real like Simeone did.
Wait, I know. He can't. Not until he buys 1B€ of players.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

I somewhat rewrote it. I am writing this on my phone.

I agree with the edit. I just find him overrated considering he can't adapt to the new heights of his team.

 

[koyvoo]

Aguero

 

[Live in the Now]

Yeah, he's limited. Given his roster and his achievements, the only limited view here is to underrate him.

Yep, and he had to coach all those players to reach the level they're at. None of them were bought as stars.

All we see are the limitations of actually having to coach your team into what you want it to be.

The other top managers like Pep, Klopp, Zidane (yuck), Tuchel, Carlo (when at a top team), and Allegri have all had stars provided for them.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

He has the 3rd roster in Spain. Has had it for years. Yet he won 1 title and finished 2nd a few times (in fact he is 2nd right now).
He isn't close to having the 2nd best CL roster and yet reached the final mutiple times, including one he should have won.

All star sudded roster. LOL.
I'm wondering if Guardiola could win a title with Atletico against Barca and Real like Simeone did.
Wait, I know. He can't. Not until he buys 1B€ of players.

We've been over this a year or two ago his squad the starting eleven was as good as any side in the Spanish league.

I got no reason to hate on him. Just calling it like I see it.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Yep, and he had to coach all those players to reach the level they're at. None of them were bought as stars.

All we see are the limitations of actually having to coach your team into what you want it to be.

The other top managers like Pep, Klopp, Zidane (yuck), Tuchel, Carlo (when at a top team), and Allegri have all had stars provided for them.

Yeah, that's great but why does he continuously get played off the pitch in the league to lesser teams. He refuses to open up and take the shackles off his star players.

 

[YNWA14]

I think the whole 'best manager' or even 'good or bad manager' gets thrown around too liberally. Some managers are just better suited to certain roles, teams and players. Is it likely that Simeone would do as well with Barcelona as he does with Atletico? Probably not as expectations become very different; the mentality even of the teams and individuals are different as well. By that same token, Pep would not be able to do with Atletico what Simeone has done either. Tiers I think are more appropriate, similar to how I think players should be rated as well. There's so many variables involved that to say conclusively that one coach is the best in the world or that a coach is bad despite having success elsewhere seems a bit shallow.

 

[hatterson]

That's not a penalty. Just outside the box

 

[Evilo]

Simeone would hardly do worse than Valverde with Barca.

And to say Atletico has as good a roster as Barca and Real is just wrong, no matter how many times you write it.
No Busquets, no Modric, no Pique, no Ramos, no ter Stegen, no Courtois, and of course, no Messi, no Ronaldo.
When your attack is Diego Costa/Griezmann when the others have Messi/Neymar/Suarez or Benzema/Bale/Cristiano, it's laughable to compare.

 

[hatterson]

Good that VAR got it right. Should be a yellow though, even if it wasn't intentional.